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Bugout Kit

Started by azmark, May 07, 2013, 08:24:07 AM

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azmark

I was checking out the Bugout kit and wondered what would the performance difference be between that gun and a 2240 in stock form.  Is it worth the extra 30 - 40 bucks not accounting for the bag and other stuff in the kit?

brz-ryder †

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Not much rated  2289 is a little bit higher in fps due to a longer barrel but then your talking two different types of guns the 2289g is a pumper with a rifle stock . plus you can shoot a pumper all year round unlike a co2 2240 come winter your more or less done shooting it outside

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Crosshairs

Both of my bugout guns are for some reason very accurate shooters kinda makes me think the barrels are made from another source. If your looking for a gun for both target and small game hunting then it is worth the extra 30 beans. The higher fps really wont make much of a difference it's the accuracy you want. The 2240 is a great gun but the short barrel limits it to some degree. Just get both of them.   :-*
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Cwlongshot

The cold weather use point as well as accuracy (Because and with use of butt stock) is a valid one for certain. One would think the 2289 would be faster with its longer barrel. But reading posts where guys have cronographed them and my own chrony results using my 2240 bear out a different story. For all intent and purpose they are about equal. Lo to mid 400 range for both.  My own 2240 shooting H&N Hobbys shot 470fps.

CW
BENJAMIN's: 392PA '11 • Marauder .25 • MAC1 tuned Disco .22 • 397P Nickle '81

CROSMAN's:  1389 Back Packer .20 '86 • Hawthorne M140 4th variant • 357 W/8'' '90 • 760 '75 • 1377 '13 CARBINE LOTS ''O'' Mods • 2200 Magnum '81 (First Gen) • 2100 '13 • 2240 '13 

DAISY's:  25 '10 • Red Ryder • 22X • 922

DIANA's:  34 .22 '05 (RWS)

SHERIDAN's:  Blue Streak '82  Steroid • Blue Streak '65 Steroid • Blue Streak '70 • Blue Streak '72 • C9 Blue Streak

WEBLY's:  Longbow .177 • Hurricane  .177

XISICO's:  XS60c .22 PCP

agninja

You may be thinking of the 1322, not the 2240. The 1322 is basically the exact same pistol just with a different stock. It's also about $60-$65 whereas the bug out kit is usually around $90-$100.  The price difference has been brought up before and if you want the extended skeleton stock, you'd have to pay about $25 extra for that, not to mention that you get the better foregrip (imo) with the 2289. So even if the bag and goodies are of no use to you, you are still going to pay about the same amount if you want the carbine style 1322.

I have both a 2289 backpacker and 2240, and I've chronied both. Out of the box they were both around 415-420 fps, with the 2240 actually being a little more powerful.
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Viper1357

I agree with Crosshairs, just get both!  That's what I did when I couldn't decide. Seem like different animals in function so you can choose which platform on what day and conditions..  :)

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mackelby

I don't have a chrony so I don't know anything for sure, but I believe my 2240 shoots harder than my 2289g when they had their stock barrels on them. And after putting the 2289g barrel on the 2240 and putting a 18 inch on the 2289 and a stuffed and shimmed piston I still believe the 2240 shoots harder. Can't prove it though.

azmark

I just saw a price of 75 bucks for the bugout kit.  The stock, forearm, and barrel probably make it cheaper than doing those as mods.  On the other hand, I can get the 2240 from Amazon for $54 with  no shipping charge.  I'm not real sure I'll even go out when it's 50 degrees or less because I'm not a fan of the cold, so I'm not convinced that's a minus for CO2.

How much time do you think is actually added for a follow-up shot when you have to pump up for it?  A quick second shot seems to be a plus on the side of the gas gun.

Cwlongshot

Pyramid had the 74.99 over the weekend. 

I saw them at Cabelas in early December for $54!! I should have grabbed them....

CW
BENJAMIN's: 392PA '11 • Marauder .25 • MAC1 tuned Disco .22 • 397P Nickle '81

CROSMAN's:  1389 Back Packer .20 '86 • Hawthorne M140 4th variant • 357 W/8'' '90 • 760 '75 • 1377 '13 CARBINE LOTS ''O'' Mods • 2200 Magnum '81 (First Gen) • 2100 '13 • 2240 '13 

DAISY's:  25 '10 • Red Ryder • 22X • 922

DIANA's:  34 .22 '05 (RWS)

SHERIDAN's:  Blue Streak '82  Steroid • Blue Streak '65 Steroid • Blue Streak '70 • Blue Streak '72 • C9 Blue Streak

WEBLY's:  Longbow .177 • Hurricane  .177

XISICO's:  XS60c .22 PCP

BDS

Quote from: azmark on May 08, 2013, 03:35:41 PM
I just saw a price of 75 bucks for the bugout kit.  The stock, forearm, and barrel probably make it cheaper than doing those as mods.  On the other hand, I can get the 2240 from Amazon for $54 with  no shipping charge.  I'm not real sure I'll even go out when it's 50 degrees or less because I'm not a fan of the cold, so I'm not convinced that's a minus for CO2.

How much time do you think is actually added for a follow-up shot when you have to pump up for it?  A quick second shot seems to be a plus on the side of the gas gun.

The best you can count on is one pump per second and watch those fingers!  :D
Brian

Cwlongshot

Quote from: BDS on May 08, 2013, 04:25:03 PM
The best you can count on is one pump per second and watch those fingers!  :D

I agree, your better off pumping slowly. Inconsistant velocities from short stroking and heat created from additional friction are detrimental to a Airguns efficiency and accuracy.


IMHO, If you feel the need for quick follow up shots... I suggest more time practicing.  :P ;) I have found its better to make one accurate well placed shot than rely on a second.  I have been a fan of single shots for many years now. From my Contenders to Ruger and browning single shot rifles. Something I read once away stuck with me... Pay head to the man with a single shot rifle, he likely knows how to use it. ;)

CW
BENJAMIN's: 392PA '11 • Marauder .25 • MAC1 tuned Disco .22 • 397P Nickle '81

CROSMAN's:  1389 Back Packer .20 '86 • Hawthorne M140 4th variant • 357 W/8'' '90 • 760 '75 • 1377 '13 CARBINE LOTS ''O'' Mods • 2200 Magnum '81 (First Gen) • 2100 '13 • 2240 '13 

DAISY's:  25 '10 • Red Ryder • 22X • 922

DIANA's:  34 .22 '05 (RWS)

SHERIDAN's:  Blue Streak '82  Steroid • Blue Streak '65 Steroid • Blue Streak '70 • Blue Streak '72 • C9 Blue Streak

WEBLY's:  Longbow .177 • Hurricane  .177

XISICO's:  XS60c .22 PCP

agninja

If the animal is wounded but can still escape, it likely will do so before you can pop another pellet in your gun. Doesn't matter if you have to just cock it and load it, the chances are it won't wait around to see what you plan on doing next.  If it's badly wounded and incapacitated, I'm sure it won't have a problem waiting around another 15 seconds so you can pump your gun and finish it off.

The main problem with pumpers when it comes to hunting is the pumping action noise scaring off prey and giving away your position.
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