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Started by azmark, May 11, 2013, 04:51:16 AM

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KevinP

Quote from: arkmaker on May 16, 2013, 11:22:25 PM
In the order takers defense, they just do not have the time to do your research for you. It is set up where you have your list of parts and as you read them off they give you a price with a tally at the end.

That said, it with be nice if they had a technical hotline  :-*

But then ... we have us .....
Kevin
Albany, New York

JEBert

The closest owners manual and EVP you will find for the 2400KT is the 2250B model.  I don't have one so I'm not sure but I expect that it also has the sear spring and adjustment pieces that shows in the EVP for the 2300S or 2300T.
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Jerry
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azmark

The guy on the phone said he thinks the 2400 has the same trigger group as the 2300.  The 2400 on the CCS page does have the overtravel adjustment.  The 2400 has an 18" barrel by default but I think I'd rather go with the 10 inch so I can also put grips on it and use it as a pistol.  The 14.6" would be better in terms of velocity but I can't imagine that would work as a pistol barrel.  I think it would be just too long for that.

brz-ryder †

Here`s mine with a 14.5 inch barrel to give you an idea of the look i put a 2400 co2 tube on this 2240


Jim
my shooters
Crosman 2240 stock
Crosman 2240 highly modded
Crosman 2240 polished
Crosman stubby 2240
Crosman 116 x3
Crosman Vigilante
Crosman 1861 shiloh
Daisy 1140
Beeman p17
ruger mark 1
hatsan supercharger 25 in .22
Crosman heritage 2260
Crosman AS2250XT
Winchester M14

Noah

Quote from: brz-ryder on May 17, 2013, 08:26:07 AM
Here`s mine with a 14.5 inch barrel to give you an idea of the look i put a 2400 co2 tube on this 2240


Jim

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azmark

That doesn't seem out of proportion like I thought it would.  What's the difference between the 2240 tube and that on the 2400?

brz-ryder †

2240 tube is 8 3/8"  the 2400 is 10"

Jim
my shooters
Crosman 2240 stock
Crosman 2240 highly modded
Crosman 2240 polished
Crosman stubby 2240
Crosman 116 x3
Crosman Vigilante
Crosman 1861 shiloh
Daisy 1140
Beeman p17
ruger mark 1
hatsan supercharger 25 in .22
Crosman heritage 2260
Crosman AS2250XT
Winchester M14

azmark

Doesn't a longer tube mean less pressure, or does the valve allow the pressure to equalize with the pressure of the powerlet?  That would mean a larger volume of gas at the same pressure which should mean higher velocity, correct?

quickster47 †

Quote from: azmark on May 18, 2013, 04:09:01 PM
Doesn't a longer tube mean less pressure, or does the valve allow the pressure to equalize with the pressure of the powerlet?  That would mean a larger volume of gas at the same pressure which should mean higher velocity, correct?

If you remember neither the 2240 or 2250 tube is actually pressurized.  The 2250 uses the same 12 gram CO2 cartridges.  It just uses an extension on the gas gap to make up for the added length of the main tube to push the cartridge against the valve.

Carl


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Brent

^^^ what he said. The powerlet seats up to a seal on the valve.

azmark

Okay, so the longer tube is cosmetic, or what?

Brent

Quote from: azmark on May 18, 2013, 04:45:16 PM
Okay, so the longer tube is cosmetic, or what?
Yep... if it is on a 2240.

On other guns, sometimes the longer tube is need to bolt on a fore stock.

brz-ryder †

Quote from: Brent on May 18, 2013, 04:56:49 PM
Yep... if it is on a 2240.

On other guns, sometimes the longer tube is need to bolt on a fore stock.
Which is why i put the 2400 tube on my 2240 so i could put the walnut forearm on the gun

Jim
my shooters
Crosman 2240 stock
Crosman 2240 highly modded
Crosman 2240 polished
Crosman stubby 2240
Crosman 116 x3
Crosman Vigilante
Crosman 1861 shiloh
Daisy 1140
Beeman p17
ruger mark 1
hatsan supercharger 25 in .22
Crosman heritage 2260
Crosman AS2250XT
Winchester M14

lillysdad621

the 2400 and the 2300 share the same are the same tubes as the 2250 and 2240. the trigger groups are the same and not adjustable. the 2300S comes with a allen screw on the back of the trigger guard to restrict the travel of the trigger once pulled over the sear. If you want adjustable you need the spring and adjustable sleeve that come with the 2300S. As per power and co2 consistency... co2 will produce the same pressure at a given temperature as long as there is liquid CO2 in the powerlet. just wait a little between shots so that the barrel will return to room temperature, as it influences the rate of expansion of the gas that pushes the pellet. I have a 2240 with a home modified valve, a home made transfer port and a stronger hammer spring, with a 14 in barrel and a long metal breech. it shoots 25 shots at 550 fps with crosman prems... at the 25 shot it dumps all the co2 left and i know to replace the powerlet. very consistent and hard enough for 25 yard nutters... the 2250 tube is beneficial to use a forestock, or if you want to bulk fill... but if you do you must modify the piercer in the valve (grind it off). I do not reccomend it... you are better off getting a unsafe gadget... or cutting down a disco.

Brent

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Quote from: lillysdad621 on May 18, 2013, 11:25:00 PM
the 2400 and the 2300 share the same are the same tubes as the 2250 and 2240. the trigger groups are the same and not adjustable. the 2300S comes with a allen screw on the back of the trigger guard to restrict the travel of the trigger once pulled over the sear. If you want adjustable you need the spring and adjustable sleeve that come with the 2300S. As per power and co2 consistency... co2 will produce the same pressure at a given temperature as long as there is liquid CO2 in the powerlet. just wait a little between shots so that the barrel will return to room temperature, as it influences the rate of expansion of the gas that pushes the pellet. I have a 2240 with a home modified valve, a home made transfer port and a stronger hammer spring, with a 14 in barrel and a long metal breech. it shoots 25 shots at 550 fps with crosman prems... at the 25 shot it dumps all the co2 left and i know to replace the powerlet. very consistent and hard enough for 25 yard nutters... the 2250 tube is beneficial to use a forestock, or if you want to bulk fill... but if you do you must modify the piercer in the valve (grind it off). I do not reccomend it... you are better off getting a unsafe gadget... or cutting down a disco.

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