Loc-tite scope mount adapters?

[Tater]

I like it. :-*Looks from here you should be able to load pellets, looks to be as much room I have on my 1377.

Cool, I think I'll be able to load it too. It's favorite pellet (Daisy HP   ) requires me to have to push the pellet past the breech port with a toothpick. Next time the breech is off, I smooth up the port as mentioned in a thread here.

[Fronzdan]

Oh heck that's perfect.  From the pic of the scope alone it looked like it would be too low.  That's right where you want it!

[Tater]

And the dot is TINY. Even the plain crosshairs are really thin. I might even go with the crosshairs® even though my intention was a tiny dot. I'll try 'em both tomorrow or Thurs.
Chipmunks, Hosps,and paper targets beware.....

[Fronzdan]

Yeah for the sights that I have with the multiple reticle/dot, I prefer one of the crosshairs with the dot in the center.  It's much easier to see and works great for bullseyes.

[Tater]

Update:
I made sure the rings/adapter/scope were all lined up and tightened everything down. I had minimal time to shoot and only took a few shots from 12'. Trying two different reticules, all shots were 5" low and 5" to the right.
I looked it over thoroughly under bright lighting and nothing seem canted or tilted at all. My wife looked it over very closely too. Could it be the adapter/rings combo? I'm using the rings that came with the scope so I know they are cheapies. Do you guys think just remounting it might give different results or are would better rings be needed? Anyone have a Bushnell red dot and have luck with the stock rings?

[breakfastchef]

I assume you made windage and elevation adjustments to try and center the shots. I also assume you know the pistol can shoot on target with a different type sight. I am sure you have checked that all your screws are tights and the barrel is inline with the compression tube.


I have both a Millett and Ultradot with similar stock rings as the Bushnell and both are solidly mounted and very accurate.

Update:
I made sure the rings/adapter/scope were all lined up and tightened everything down. I had minimal time to shoot and only took a few shots from 12'. Trying two different reticules, all shots were 5" low and 5" to the right.
I looked it over thoroughly under bright lighting and nothing seem canted or tilted at all. My wife looked it over very closely too. Could it be the adapter/rings combo? I'm using the rings that came with the scope so I know they are cheapies. Do you guys think just remounting it might give different results or are would better rings be needed? Anyone have a Bushnell red dot and have luck with the stock rings?

[Tater]

I assume you made windage and elevation adjustments to try and center the shots. I also assume you know the pistol can shoot on target with a different type sight. I am sure you have checked that all your screws are tights and the barrel is inline with the compression tube.


I have both a Millett and Ultradot with similar stock rings as the Bushnell and both are solidly mounted and very accurate.

I actually didn't try/have time to adjust windage and elevation. At 12' from the target, I figured I'd run out of clicks to have to move the POI 5". The pistol was shooting perfectly accurate with a cheap BSA 3 MOA red dot right before removing it and adding the Bushnell. I upgraded only to have the smaller dot and crosshairs.

[cherokeesteve]

Seems like a lot, not unheard of though. Make sure those adapters are seated properly.

[Tater]

Seems like a lot, not unheard of though. Make sure those adapters are seated properly.

Me and my wife looked very closely from every angle and nothing seemed "off" at all. I guess I'll try remounting it tonight. If that doesn't work I guess I'll have to look at new rings.   

[JEBert]

Jerry,
Assuming you have both rings and both adapters oriented the same direction:
One thing I have done with regular scopes before when it was way off after the first few shots, is to center the reticle. Turn one of the adjustment knobs all the way in one direction until you feel resistance, and then turn it back all the way the other way while counting the clicks until it again stops turning.  Then turn it back half the number of total clicks.  Repeat with the other adjustment. IE, if you did elevation first, repeat with the windage adjustment.
Theoretically, that should center the dot but depending on how well it was engineered and constructed inside, it may not.  Just in case, count the clicks at the beginning in case you need to return to the original setting.
Hope you can get it sighted in.
Cheers,

[Tater]

Jerry,
Assuming you have both rings and both adapters oriented the same direction:
One thing I have done with regular scopes before when it was way off after the first few shots, is to center the reticle. Turn one of the adjustment knobs all the way in one direction until you feel resistance, and then turn it back all the way the other way while counting the clicks until it again stops turning.  Then turn it back half the number of total clicks.  Repeat with the other adjustment. IE, if you did elevation first, repeat with the windage adjustment.
Theoretically, that should center the dot but depending on how well it was engineered and constructed inside, it may not.  Just in case, count the clicks at the beginning in case you need to return to the original setting.
Hope you can get it sighted in.
Cheers,

Thanks, I will try that too. Would a brand new scope come with the adjustment knobs not in the middle of the range?
I'll switch the front rings with the back as well.

[breakfastchef]

Thanks, I will try that too. Would a brand new scope come with the adjustment knobs not in the middle of the range?
I'll switch the front rings with the back as well.

Seriously, why look for a problem that may not even exist. Three shots at 12' does not tell you anything except that your pellets were off low and to the side by 5". [size=78%]Just zero the scope.[/size][/size][size=78%] [/size]

[JEBert]

Would a brand new scope come with the adjustment knobs not in the middle of the range?

That's what you are checking for.  It may depend on which knucklehead was on that part of the assembly line that day and if QC caught it or not. 
Cheers,

[BDS]

Tater, I'm guessing you had another sight mounted on the stock dovetails?  Were the rings also lower?

Keep in mind that the dovetails (theoretically) should be in  aligment with the barrel in both X and Y centerlines. Also, with the weaver adaptor inserted and higher rings you are now "stacking" height above centerline and any error or alignment issues in dovetail to barrel are amplified as you get further away from the dovetail grooves.

Also, try the new scope and rings on another gun if you can before you tear the rings/scope assembly down, and... you need at LEAST 10 meters to have a valid test of your scope. 12 feet ain't gonna work.

Last, 5 inches is a ton of adjustment and the reticle may not even adjust that far with out bottoming and loosening the reticle mounts/springs (bad, very bad)

[JEBert]

the reticle may not even adjust that far with out bottoming and loosening the reticle mounts/springs (bad, very bad)

This is correct.  If you are going to try to center the dot/reticle (as per my previous post), be very careful.  When you get to the end of adjustment, stop when you feel any resistance.
Cheers,