18 & 24 inch .177 barrel with F/T P&V .... fpe/fpe guesstimate ???

Started by DBOdude, November 30, 2013, 09:43:34 PM

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DBOdude

thinking about getting a .177 barrel for my DBO ...... it has a AC Customs flat top piston and valve , the valve has had the exhaust port angled , the stem has been turned to improve flow and it's been faced/flat topped and i'm using the stock transfer port . i was wondering what folks using a similar set up with the 18 or 24 inch barrel are getting with 5 , 10 and 15 pumps ? please tell what pellet/weight you used too .

i want to try .177 because of the wider variety of inexpensive pellets in .177 . i'll be doing %99.999 plinking and paper target shooting .... although i'm sure a .177 at 700 fpe will handle squirrels , rabbits and birds at the modest range i'd feel comfortable shooting them . i know the guns and their mods will vary a bit in actual performance so i'm wanting to get a ball park figure for playing with chairgun .

thanks :)
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JMJinNC

I have roughly the same setup with a .177, 24" shrouded barrel, Mellon ft/fv, ported & profiled valve internals, stock TP, extended probe.

I'm getting 9-10 fpe with JSB exacts and exact heavies @ 10 pumps.

Favorite are the exacts, shooting 705fps at the muzzle.

At 4 pumps, exacts shoot 500fps for 10m target speeds.

Hope that helps.

JMJ


John

DBOdude

thats very helpful  :-* 500 fps @ 4 pumps is very nice . going by this thread ...
http://www.network54.com/Forum/275684/thread/1318040664/1377+to+1322+upgrade,+my+results.++Need+stronger+hammer+spring-
thats about what my stock DBO did with just a 24 inch .22 barrel added does with 10 pumps .  :)
9-10 fpe with just 10 pumps means there's a few more FPE available if i want/need them on occasion .
ya just gotta love the versatility pumping allows  :-* and with zero recoil  ;) :-*
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Hung2



Cwlongshot

Here is mine. It has the FTP&V ported a little in the valve, stock port, ext probe, and 17'' barrel. It gets 9-12 FPE with up to 20 pumps. (usually only pump to 15-17 if I feel full power is needed)

Here is 13g pellets @ 17 pumps:



Here is 9.3g @ 17pumps:



Here is 11g at 12 pumps:



Here is 7.2g @ 14 pumps:



Here is 7.2g @ 20 pumps:



Here is 13.6g @ 17 pumps:



Here is 11g @ 4 pumps:



JMJ,
I would love to add that cheek piece to mine! LOOK GREAT!! How did you make it or was it bought?  HELP PLEASE! ;)

CW
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JMJinNC

Thanks. I made the cheek rest. A search on this forum for "JMJ" and "cheek rest" should turn up the details.

JMJ
John

crossliner

Mr. JMJINNC is a genius he gave me autocad drawings for the 1377 barrel band/pivot plug so I had one made in ss via cnc machine..Here is the proof  :-* Ain't she cute  ;)






Noah

Cwlongshot - awesome report! Good on you!!  :-* :-* :-*

I have a 1377 built by Roy at Mountain Air (with all the goodies inside and out) and if I remember correctly, with a 19" barrel I am/was getting 700ish fps with 7.9 pellets with 12 pumps. Accurate as hell, too.

I have a choice 24" Mellon barrel I am going to put on either the above-mentioned 1377 or perhaps another Mountain Air 1750 waiting to get some attention. More to come.

Have a great one and take care,

Noah
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Crosman 1377, 1322, 1325, 1750, 2250 and 2540, Benjamin Steroid 392, IB QB78D, Avanti/Daisy 853, Slavia 634.

Hung2

What would be the optimal barrel length for a pumper? As a pistol, I would like it not more than 12" or it would become awkward to handle. A 17-18" barrel would be ok for a carbine with a shoulder stock. Is there more efficiency to be had between 12" and 17"? Thanks,

Noah

Quote from: Hung2 on December 01, 2013, 10:23:25 PM
What would be the optimal barrel length for a pumper? As a pistol, I would like it not more than 12" or it would become awkward to handle. A 17-18" barrel would be ok for a carbine with a shoulder stock. Is there more efficiency to be had between 12" and 17"? Thanks,

True that on a pistol having a longer than 12" barrel does become sort of awkward, but I just sit around the range resting the gun(s) on sand bags while paper punching, so, mobility is not a huge concern for me.

I am most likely wrong, but I sort of remember the rule of each inch of a barrel should produce around 10 additional fps.  ???
"Money is like fertilizer: When it's hoarded, it stinks. When spread around, cool stuff grows." John Densmore, drummer of The Doors

Crosman 1377, 1322, 1325, 1750, 2250 and 2540, Benjamin Steroid 392, IB QB78D, Avanti/Daisy 853, Slavia 634.

Hung2

Darn, I just chopped my 2289 barrel down to 11.5". This is the most appealing length to me as a pistol. My be I should have left it at say 12.5".

DBOdude

thanks for the additional replies folks  :)

some mighty fine lookin guns too  :-*
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