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Title: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: AgentWD40_FL on February 27, 2013, 12:48:29 AM
 ... along with my new 1377 Carbine

(http://www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/148894665/large.jpg)


I've been playing around alot with getting the scope just right, but tonight I decided to see how it faired with different pellets.

*** I should probably do this at 10 meters, cause @ 5 meters, just about everything works

5 Meters
3 Pumps per shot
5 Shots per target
All wadcutter pellets

(http://www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/148969651/large.jpg)
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: BerkshireHunter on February 27, 2013, 01:00:31 AM
Nice groups. No CPHP's? I would definately take a scoped carbine back farther.
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: AgentWD40_FL on February 27, 2013, 01:04:06 AM
Quote from: BerkshireHunter on February 27, 2013, 01:00:31 AM
I would definately take a scoped carbine back farther.

Yup, I agree after doing this at 5 meters.  However, I'm limited in my garage and cant quite reach 10 meters. I have to open the back door and set up the targets 6 feet past it.  Light is an issue too ... but daylight savings is coming and that will help!

I see people talk about CPHP's but havent come across them
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: breakfastchef on February 27, 2013, 01:09:10 AM
Quote from: AgentWD40_FL on February 27, 2013, 12:48:29 AM*** I should probably do this at 10 meters, cause @ 5 meters, just about everything works

Agreed. But to really find the best pellet(s), you should try to stretch out your range even more.
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: quickster47 † on February 27, 2013, 01:42:16 AM
If you have the room 20 to 30 meters will tell a whole different story.

Carl
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: BerkshireHunter on February 27, 2013, 02:39:49 AM
Quote from: AgentWD40_FL on February 27, 2013, 01:04:06 AM
Yup, I agree after doing this at 5 meters.  However, I'm limited in my garage and cant quite reach 10 meters. I have to open the back door and set up the targets 6 feet past it.  Light is an issue too ... but daylight savings is coming and that will help!

I see people talk about CPHP's but havent come across them
Walmart usually has them. They group good out of most of my Crosmans.
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: jSan22 on February 27, 2013, 03:28:53 AM
I agree, that carbine is much more capable than 5 yards. push her back!
I just recently got a large variable scope for my 1322. i don't like the mount for it, as its not as solid but its retaining zero. I guess its just a bit heavy and long.

and I noticed you dais you bought all wadcutters. I wouldn't be too sure over 10 yards, as they seem to open up.
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: AgentWD40_FL on February 27, 2013, 04:00:00 AM
I'll work on the 10 meters setup ... maybe I can find a light that I can make work for tomorrow.

If not, then no reason I cant try saturday am ....  :)

Now I'm real curious on how well it will do at distance.  I think the max I can get is probably 30 meters in the backyard, but I'll start at 10 and work up.  Since I put the gun together, all I've really done is work on the scope settings.

I'll post back ...  :-*

Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: quickster47 † on February 27, 2013, 04:07:17 AM
What model Bushnell is that?

Carl
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: 1377x on February 27, 2013, 05:46:32 AM
nice shooting!i found that my one hole groups like yous at 5m were the same at 10m
lookig forward to seeing the next trials
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: JEBert on February 27, 2013, 06:04:48 AM
QuoteI see people talk about CPHP's but havent come across them
X-2 on Walmart.  I've seen them at Academy Sports, and Bass Pro Shops too.  They haven't grouped as well as some others in my guns though.
When I first got my 2300KT, Crosman Premier Hollow Points and Benjamin Discovery .22 14.3 gr. were the only .22 caliber pellets I could find locally.  They looked identical to each other so I checked the part number on the tin... same number.  WalMart only had the CPHP's but both Academy and BPS had both IIRC.
I did find some Gamo Match Diabolo .22's at Bass Pro last weekend.  Gamo Match .177's did very well in my 1377's but not quite as well as RWS Meisterkugeln 8.2gn.  We'll see how the Gamo Match .22's stack up against the H&N Sport's I've been shooting.

Cheers,
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: Tater on February 27, 2013, 06:46:54 AM
Quote from: AgentWD40_FL on February 27, 2013, 01:04:06 AM
Yup, I agree after doing this at 5 meters.  However, I'm limited in my garage and cant quite reach 10 meters. I have to open the back door and set up the targets 6 feet past it.  Light is an issue too ... but daylight savings is coming and that will help!

I see people talk about CPHP's but havent come across them


X3 on walmart. CPHP are basically the only kind they carry here. I'm always looking local for other stuff to try.
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: AgentWD40_FL on February 27, 2013, 12:50:45 PM
I guess I really havent paid much attention to hollow points, or any other type of 'game' pellet.  I've only been shooting paper and tin.  Next time in Wally World I'll take a closer look.

I think there is a light on a stand in the garage at work ....  maybe I can 'borrow' it for a day or two to light up the target at 10 meters.
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: quickster47 † on February 27, 2013, 02:39:19 PM
Quote from: 1377x on February 27, 2013, 05:46:32 AM
I found that my one hole groups like yous at 5m were the same at 10m

If you are shooting these one hole groups at 10 meters why exactly aren't you entering our monthly competitions?

Carl
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: 1377x on February 27, 2013, 03:42:39 PM
Quote from: quickster47 on February 27, 2013, 02:39:19 PM
If you are shooting these one hole groups at 10 meters why exactly aren't you entering our monthly competitions?

Carl

cant print the targets
been saying that and trying it for the last three years.every time i do they are tiny and all that stuff i see on the print preview might as well be written in hieroglyphs.i dont need to print a nutter pesting is all the target practice i need .cant posts the pics here to graphic
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: RC1947 on February 27, 2013, 03:45:52 PM
Pretty impressive and, at least with one pellet, surprising.  Well done! RC
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: Tater on February 27, 2013, 05:35:03 PM
Quote from: 1377x on February 27, 2013, 03:42:39 PM
cant print the targets
been saying that and trying it for the last three years.every time i do they are tiny and all that stuff i see on the print preview might as well be written in hieroglyphs.i dont need to print a nutter pesting is all the target practice i need .cant posts the pics here to graphic

I can print some and send them to you. Which ones do you want?
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: 1377x on February 27, 2013, 07:28:20 PM
Quote from: Tater on February 27, 2013, 05:35:03 PM
I can print some and send them to you. Which ones do you want?
you know its been so long since i looked at the monthly's i dont know what there is
it used to be only a few but now iirc there is a bunch
probably some of the pistol targets.i have to go to my nephews to do the 10m shooting i have 5m distance now
my rifles are to powerful for paper,plus the pellets i have are expense.yeah wally's is just a mile away but i am not going to shoot cphp.they will go supersonic and that will be very noisy.i'll put the 137 to work in the monthly's just hope my barrel has good accuracy as you know its iffy on whether or not its new and the condition is i am skeptical but i do have a lw barrel i can use if needed hope it likes the jsb exact heavies
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: quickster47 † on February 27, 2013, 07:35:54 PM
Quote from: 1377x on February 27, 2013, 07:28:20 PM
plus the pellets i have are expense.yeah wally's is just a mile away but i am not going to shoot cphp.they will go supersonic and that will be very noisy.i'll put the 137 to work in the monthly's just hope my barrel has good accuracy as you know its iffy on whether or not its new and the condition is i am skeptical but i do have a lw barrel i can use if needed hope it likes the jsb exact heavies

Everyone has expensive pellets.  Just get some descent wadcutters and start shooting.  No more excuses.  Just do it!!!

Carl
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: Tater on February 27, 2013, 08:31:46 PM
If Ed shoot in the 5m pistol, I will too.  :D  I'll try to get my wife to complete too. She entered one at GTA last year, can her Beeman P17 be used or strictly Crosman?

/derail
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: quickster47 † on February 27, 2013, 09:10:22 PM
Quote from: Tater on February 27, 2013, 08:31:46 PM
If Ed shoot in the 5m pistol, I will too.  :D  I'll try to get my wife to complete too. She entered one at GTA last year, can her Beeman P17 be used or strictly Crosman?

/derail

Some of the monthlys change but we do usually have a 5 meter non Crosman pistol benchrest competition.

Would love to have you and the missus join us.

Carl
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: Brent on February 28, 2013, 04:46:20 AM
I was having the same trouble as Ed... in getting the jpg image targets to print to the correct size. They were printing out smaller (although I like shooting them in practice because of that). Finally got them right.

The PDFs targets available once in awhile, print to scale fine though (which makes sense because they are PDFs). It would be cool if we had the PDF formated targets to choose from too.
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: quickster47 † on February 28, 2013, 04:51:06 AM
I'll see about converting our jpg images to PDF because so many have problems sizing them correctly.

Carl
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: Brent on February 28, 2013, 04:53:41 AM
Thanks Carl! That would be really nice. Thanks so much!!
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: AgentWD40_FL on March 02, 2013, 02:44:04 PM
Alittle pressed for time, so no picture ......

I rearranged my garage and if I shoot on an angle to the corners, I can get 10 meters.  So between last night and this morning, I've been doing alot of shooting.

Out of 9 different brands @ 10 meters, there are 2 that stand above the rest:

H&N Sport Match Pistol @ 7.56gr
RWS Hobby SportLine @ 7.0gr
(The RWS Hobbies just came in yesterday ... got them free from PA due to a packaging mix up)

A very close contender is the RWS R-10 Match

The rest are still within a dime-size but the above were the best

I really like this B&A 18" barrel. Its putting really nice grooves in the skirts and when I pick them out of the duct seal, they are absolutely straight in.

Pic later when I get a chance.
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: AgentWD40_FL on March 06, 2013, 01:10:03 AM
I've put a couple hundred pellets through my 1377 Carbine ... trying to figure out which pellet it likes.

Generally speaking, it likes all of them ... again.  Certain pellets, I have the occasional flyer ... if you can call 1/8" off as a flier. But even those is probably more me than a bad pellet.  I'm only resting the forearm on a bag of rice.

Tonight, the best consistency was the RWS Meister's, and the Laser's were pretty good to.

10 Meters
4 Pumps per shot
Outer black circle is 1/2"

(http://www.pbase.com/lakebiker/image/149074671/large.jpg)
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: Brent on March 06, 2013, 01:49:59 AM
Gotta love how those Daisy's just keep hanging in there good... with all those premium pellets.  ;)
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: BerkshireHunter on March 06, 2013, 01:53:56 AM
Cool target.
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: Brent on March 06, 2013, 02:07:47 AM
Quote from: BerkshireHunter on March 06, 2013, 01:53:56 AM
Cool target.

I like it too. Did you print that from online?
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: AgentWD40_FL on March 06, 2013, 03:49:52 AM
I cant remember where I got the targets .... some nice fellow shooter shared them with me. I have 4 different ones that I use regularly.

Anyone interested in them, PM your email address to me and I'll shoot them off.
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: quickster47 † on March 06, 2013, 04:38:50 AM
I have this target as a PDF I can load up on my server and make it available from the sticky in the competition section.

http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,10455.0.html (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,10455.0.html)

Let me know if there is any interest.

Carl
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: Brent on March 06, 2013, 04:47:16 AM
That would be cool Carl  :)

I like those ones where you have lots of targets on them, makes it nice when you want to take 1 or 2 shots on each and keep track of your accuracy... rather than a bunch of holes on 3 or 4 targets.
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: quickster47 † on March 06, 2013, 04:53:05 AM
I'll load it on my server in the morning and post the link so folks can download it.

I like that target lots.  It is great for testing accuracy and sighting in scopes.

Carl
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: Brent on March 06, 2013, 04:59:16 AM
Sounds Good... Thanks!!

WD emailed his too ("Thanks WD")... with 42, that's a nice amount of pellets to get to, and then take a break for a bit  :)
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: quickster47 † on March 06, 2013, 10:46:35 PM
Okay I uploaded this target to the sticky thread CAPOF PDF Monthly Targets and Others.

So have it and download it till your hearts content.  :)

http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,10455.0.html (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,10455.0.html)

Carl

Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: Tater on March 06, 2013, 11:34:55 PM
This site has a good selection as well:   http://www.kermitairgunclub.com/targets/ (http://www.kermitairgunclub.com/targets/)
Title: Re: So, I grabbed 9 different brands of pellets .....
Post by: Brent on March 07, 2013, 02:31:17 AM
Quote from: Tater on March 06, 2013, 11:34:55 PM
This site has a good selection as well:   http://www.kermitairgunclub.com/targets/ (http://www.kermitairgunclub.com/targets/)
Thanks Jerry!
Thanks Carl!