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Title: If it could be done !!
Post by: Crosshairs on March 13, 2013, 07:57:59 PM
If you could make it or one of the vendors made it what mod or accessory would you really like to see on your build, lets get crazy but practical and see what we can come up with. I for one would like a auto focus scope with a built in range finder that would lock on the target and have a light go on when it's the right time to pull the trigger.
                            Mike
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: Trophyhunter49 on March 13, 2013, 08:23:54 PM
  I like the scope idea  :-* Lets see I know a1322 that can be pumped or works orr hpa ! when the hpa is gone then you can pump it and keep shooting  ??? ??? Sounds good to me !! LOL
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: Brutuz on March 13, 2013, 08:29:27 PM
I'd like an electronic match trigger for the 13xx and 22xx series  :)
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: BDS on March 13, 2013, 08:34:05 PM
Quote from: Crosshairs on March 13, 2013, 07:57:59 PM
If you could make it or one of the vendors made it what mod or accessory would you really like to see on your build, lets get crazy but practical and see what we can come up with. I for one would like a auto focus scope with a built in range finder that would lock on the target and have a light go on when it's the right time to pull the trigger.                            Mike

At one time, Zeiss made them for the Israeli Defense Forces Mike, it's been a few years but I seem to remember the price tag being $8000 per unit  :D  as posted on a powder burner forum I was on at the time. Never made available over here or to the public in general anywhere I'm guessing.
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: jSan22 on March 13, 2013, 08:37:50 PM
a semi auto system for the 1322.
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: 1377x on March 13, 2013, 08:52:46 PM
a powerful .357 pump action hpa gun with a large capacity drum or belt fed magazine
maybe even semi/full auto but i think that might exist already
to be able to take a shot without having to move off target would be nice
oh! it has to have an automatic hpa refill that activates when the pressure drops below a set point ;)
totally self-contained just needs reloading
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: Rualert on March 13, 2013, 08:59:25 PM
Quote from: Brutuz on March 13, 2013, 08:29:27 PM
I'd like an electronic match trigger for the 13xx and 22xx series  :)

  I think one or more of our talented designers could come up with that. I would almost bet you could adapt an electronic trigger / solenoid from a paintball gun to work too.

Casey
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: Crosshairs on March 13, 2013, 09:04:50 PM
Quote from: Brutuz on March 13, 2013, 08:29:27 PM
I'd like an electronic match trigger for the 13xx and 22xx series  :)
Good one Bert i like that. I like the semi auto idea also but would rather have it one a 22XX.
                                           Mike
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: quickster47 † on March 13, 2013, 09:07:34 PM
Quote from: Rualert on March 13, 2013, 08:59:25 PM
  I think one or more of our talented designers could come up with that. I would almost bet you could adapt an electronic trigger / solenoid from a paintball gun to work too.

Casey

Casey you have any suggested model to look at for that idea?  I m certainly not opposed to such an endeavor.

Carl
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: DaveB50 on March 13, 2013, 09:51:59 PM
A portable AC/DC powered pump to recharge my Disco.
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: MichaelM on March 13, 2013, 11:59:55 PM
Quote from: Brutuz on March 13, 2013, 08:29:27 PM
I'd like an electronic match trigger for the 13xx and 22xx series  :)

:) I have been casualy looking at some electronic triggers for paintball that could be converted.... I have always wondered with all the bullpup builds and such why people have not aready done this.... seems a ton easier then trying to make a linkage seetup....
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: WyoMan on March 14, 2013, 02:26:05 AM
A "variable volume valve"....
lets you build 1200 +/- psi w/ 4 or 5 pumps for high efficiency gas expansion power at low pumps
then with more pumps the valve expands in volume instead of building more pressure so that the pump stroke efficiency stays real good for high pumps
then at high pumps you have extreme power with the extra valve volume - and also good efficiency
make it adjustable for pressure between 1000 - 1500 psi so you can tune to the pump stroke pressure....
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: Crosshairs on March 14, 2013, 02:42:30 AM
A 20 shot tube fed magazine for a 22XX  mounted along the tube something like the crosman 400.
                                  Mike
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: breakfastchef on March 14, 2013, 03:10:21 AM
Gyroscopic gizmo that steadies the gun when shooting offhand.
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: quickster47 † on March 14, 2013, 03:46:35 AM
Quote from: MichaelM on March 13, 2013, 11:59:55 PM
:) I have been casualy looking at some electronic triggers for paintball that could be converted.... I have always wondered with all the bullpup builds and such why people have not aready done this.... seems a ton easier then trying to make a linkage seetup....

Which electronic triggers are you thinking about?  Any particular one you would like to share?

Carl
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: quickster47 † on March 14, 2013, 03:49:02 AM
Quote from: Crosshairs on March 14, 2013, 02:42:30 AM
A 20 shot tube fed magazine for a 22XX  mounted along the tube something like the crosman 400.
                                  Mike

Who was it that made something like that for the 2240, AirgunSmith or Bluefork or someone else?

Carl
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: targettgii on March 14, 2013, 04:23:05 AM
 I think it was B&A I believe it's still there just not available.
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: Crosshairs on March 14, 2013, 12:35:07 PM
I would like a light  on the gun to show it is cocked. Oh wait John has that one covered. :-*
                                   Mike
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: agninja on March 14, 2013, 01:18:35 PM
Maybe a snap, twist, and click type of component assembly, to allow for quick swapping out of barrels and access to the gun's internals for easy modding and upgrades. The idea being to eliminate all those tiny screws and the time consuming process of taking the gun apart with multiple tools.

Basically just follow the same model the military uses for their modern assault rifle weapon systems.  And yes Crosman, that means finally embracing the weaver rail and abandoning the dovetail rail and open sights.
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: RC1947 on March 14, 2013, 04:02:20 PM
a 2x red dot with a pin point dot. RC
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: Crosshairs on March 14, 2013, 04:47:58 PM
I would love one piece grips for the 13XX and 22XX that don't move maybe even two screws.
                                               Mike
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: Tater on March 14, 2013, 04:53:37 PM
Quote from: RC1947 on March 14, 2013, 04:02:20 PM
a 2x red dot with a pin point dot. RC

Heck yeah!!!!
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: BDS on March 14, 2013, 05:52:00 PM
Quote from: Crosshairs on March 14, 2013, 04:47:58 PM
I would love one piece grips for the 13XX and 22XX that don't move maybe even two screws.
                                               Mike

+1 to those one-pc grips Mike!
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: Crosshairs on March 14, 2013, 06:35:09 PM
Now that we are talking electronics how bout a electric adjustable rear sight with micro adjustments. I guess if they made servos small enough it could be done.
                                                   Mike
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: BDS on March 14, 2013, 06:35:59 PM
Nano-bots Mike...Nano-bots
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: millipede on March 14, 2013, 07:43:33 PM
i was thinking it'd be cool to have a scope with multiple settings like the radio in your car. You sight in with one pellet and lock in that setting, then push a lever or turn a knob over to sight in a different pellet. it could take the place of the brightness setting knob on some scopes so you could just dial it to whatever pellet you happen to be using at the moment...
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: BDS on March 14, 2013, 07:49:14 PM
Not exactly the same but, BSA makes .22 LR and .17 HMR scopes that have elevation knobs with bullet grain or weight indications. The setting are still mechnanical twists of the knobs but the graduations are suposed to be for the bullet weigh at XXX yards.
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: Rualert on March 14, 2013, 11:12:51 PM
  Carl, I don't have specific brands, or models, but with the huge range of paintball stuff out there, I'm sure that could be done. The other way would be a simple solenoid to pull or push the sear, and a small momentary contact switch for the "trigger". I can do a little digging, and see what I can find through some of the electronics distributors. This would make the triggers way sweet, you might even be able to place the switch right behind the actual trigger so you have some feel, but almost no weight giving a match grade trigger in the ounces weight range.

As for the adjustable scope idea for different pellets, print out a small circle with either the mildot selections, or number of clicks for a two or three pellets, thus giving you the quick change ability, this also works well for range changes, and tape or glue it inside the rear cap lid. Flip the cap open, adjust as needed, shoot to POA.

Just my ramblings.
P.S. A very talented gent from the UK built a semi auto repeating breech setup for the 22XX series guns, and will happily send the cad drawings to anyone if they wish to duplicate it. If my memory serves me, it used the equivalent of a stripper type clip, you loaded the pellets in the strip, inserted it in one side then fired. empty one, slip in another. It works quite well, and the builder did his in polished brass, so it looks like a million bucks. I would think an aluminum breech matte or polished would be a little lighter, and would be a little more cost effective.

Casey

I can dig up the link for the semi auto breech if someone wants it.
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: quickster47 † on March 15, 2013, 04:00:43 AM
Casey I think this is the one you are speaking about.

http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,10559.msg127896.html#msg127896 (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,10559.msg127896.html#msg127896)

Carl
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: 1377x on March 15, 2013, 05:37:53 AM
Quote from: MichaelM on March 13, 2013, 11:59:55 PM
:) I have been casualy looking at some electronic triggers for paintball that could be converted.... I have always wondered with all the bullpup builds and such why people have not aready done this.... seems a ton easier then trying to make a linkage seetup....
I have seen some 2xxx guns with electric triggers.a few years ago it was kind of a craze
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: droid on March 15, 2013, 10:33:29 AM
I would like a digital power adjuster with display screen showing the power setting. Passworded so it could be electronically locked at a set power. (Then if the firearms people test it it can't be adjusted up and seized)
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: Rualert on March 15, 2013, 06:44:03 PM
Quote from: quickster47 on March 15, 2013, 04:00:43 AM
Casey I think this is the one you are speaking about.

http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,10559.msg127896.html#msg127896 (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,10559.msg127896.html#msg127896)

Carl

     Yep, that's Alstone's creation. He built and proved the semi auto 22xx can be done. I really wish I had some machining tools, with half of the skills some of our members here have.
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: mike hunt on March 15, 2013, 07:13:52 PM
Gary, i'm with you on that one, having managed to get decent power, we still need to be very careful.

my wish list would be for a reasonably priced repeater breech
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: HappyHunter on March 29, 2013, 01:05:14 PM
Maybe one already exists and I just haven't seen it yet  ???, but a pistol scope with 10"-20" eye relief with a MilDot reticle for pistol FT.

Would also like a P-rod or Disco bulk fill adapter that screws into tube end that incorporates a gauge - i.e: have the fill nipple coming out the center of gauge with needle/psi markings circling the fill nipple  :-*


Todd
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: KevinP on March 29, 2013, 01:36:12 PM
Quote from: breakfastchef on March 14, 2013, 03:10:21 AM
Gyroscopic gizmo that steadies the gun when shooting offhand.

;D ;D ... would make a lot of $$$$ with that one  :-*
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: droid on March 29, 2013, 01:39:17 PM
Yeah but like one of those laser guided missiles so the pellet locks onto the target  :-*
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: dan_house on April 10, 2013, 06:19:30 PM
I'd like a factory grip frame capable of accepting aftermarket AR grips
Love to Timney or Jewell create either drop in trigger compnents or a complete drop in assemby that requires no mods to frame
(fwiw: I know of a guy that put a small gyroscope on his Field Target rifle.... legal in open class)
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: droid on April 10, 2013, 06:37:30 PM
Quote from: dan_house on April 10, 2013, 06:19:30 PM
I'd like a factory grip frame capable of accepting aftermarket AR grips
Love to Timney or Jewell create either drop in trigger compnents or a complete drop in assemby that requires no mods to frame
(fwiw: I know of a guy that put a small gyroscope on his Field Target rifle.... legal in open class)

The BlueFork one will take AR Grips

http://www.hpasports.com/pages/product-catalog/Blue_Fork_Designs_Products?previous_url_id=1 (http://www.hpasports.com/pages/product-catalog/Blue_Fork_Designs_Products?previous_url_id=1)

(http://www.droid.co.uk/pics/bfgs.jpg)
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: chongman on April 10, 2013, 08:04:53 PM
Gary- The grip on the pistol to the right...what are they and did you have to perform any mods to the BF frame?
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: seagullplayer on April 10, 2013, 08:41:37 PM
I would love to have a practical side arm holster for a scoped 1377.  And mounted on the scope is a laser site and a tactical light.  You know all done up like that, they kind of remind you of the gun Han Solo carried in Star Wars, I mean the real Star Wars..  ;D

(http://www.forafewmoviesmore.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/516771-han-solo.jpg)
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: droid on April 10, 2013, 09:08:09 PM
Quote from: chongman on April 10, 2013, 08:04:53 PM
Gary- The grip on the pistol to the right...what are they and did you have to perform any mods to the BF frame?

Michael, the grip needed a few mods to fit, nothing major though and would be easy peasy for a man of your abilities.

Model of grip is a FAB AG-43

http://www.fab-defense.com/en/category-pistol-grips/id-1/ar15-m16-pistol-grip.html (http://www.fab-defense.com/en/category-pistol-grips/id-1/ar15-m16-pistol-grip.html)

I actually bought a second one too but a slightly different model the AGR43, you can have that one with pleasure as I have no use for it. If it will be any good to you PM me your address and I will get it out to you tomorrow.

This is the other one:

http://www.fab-defense.com/en/category-pistol-grips/id-269/rubberized-ergonomic-m4-m16-ar15-pistol-grip.html (http://www.fab-defense.com/en/category-pistol-grips/id-269/rubberized-ergonomic-m4-m16-ar15-pistol-grip.html)
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: chongman on April 10, 2013, 09:42:42 PM
Thanks for those links Gary.  So it looks like you have to slice off that "flipped up part" of the grip.  I don't know if or when I will do another pistol with a Blue Fork Designs trigger frame. Summer is coming and hobby money will get tighter. I want to go fishing, it's been nearly 3 years since I've been waterproof  ;D
Title: Re: If it could be done !!
Post by: dan_house on April 10, 2013, 10:06:09 PM
hehe I thought of blue fork as I was pressing the Post button ;)