Hopefully this is the right spot. I'm hoping you guys can point me in the right direction to find a bent wire stock(possibly a straight wire stock instead) for my current 1377 build. I know of a few at the moment but looking to have more options if possible. Gmac, TKO, Crosmods are what I've found so far. Seems like all the threads containing info about finding them all contain dead links now.. Hoping to find one in black or polished aluminum. No brass. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Been looking myself, pretty much same as you already have looked at.
I thought these tippman stocks looked quite good (needs an adaptor)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Paintball-Tippmann-98-C98-Sliding-Stock-MP5-OPS-CQB-NEW-/261120782392?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D6802100713124371158%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D260876633730%26 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Paintball-Tippmann-98-C98-Sliding-Stock-MP5-OPS-CQB-NEW-/261120782392?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D6802100713124371158%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D260876633730%26)
Black adaptor available here
http://www.sdcustomdesign.com/parts.htm#grips%3E (http://www.sdcustomdesign.com/parts.htm#grips%3E)
I am using a stock from Ebay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tippmann-98-BT-4-tactical-skeleton-metal-stock-W-RVA-/390574164358?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item5af008c986. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tippmann-98-BT-4-tactical-skeleton-metal-stock-W-RVA-/390574164358?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item5af008c986.)
the adapter is from HPAS http://www.hpasports.com/pages/product-catalog-detail/Crosman_13xx_to_Tippmann_98_Custom_Stock_Adapter?previous_url_id=1 (http://www.hpasports.com/pages/product-catalog-detail/Crosman_13xx_to_Tippmann_98_Custom_Stock_Adapter?previous_url_id=1)
I added a butt pad to extend the length by an inch http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002TUSK06/ref=s9_simh_gw_p200_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-4&pf_rd_r=15A985AHAJ9D77QH0Q3Q&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470939031&pf_rd_i=507846. (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002TUSK06/ref=s9_simh_gw_p200_d0_i3?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-4&pf_rd_r=15A985AHAJ9D77QH0Q3Q&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470939031&pf_rd_i=507846.)
I had to heat the pad in Boiling water to soften enough to put on stock.
All in all a great mod
I have both a GMAC adjustable and a working man virginia wire stock.
The WMV one i have painted a matte black and looks great, never used it. I fell in love with the Crosmods stocks.
Both i would separate with, the GMAC was expensive because of the exchange and shipping over seas.
I would be interested in the WMV stock for sure!!! Those are the ones I had my eye on. Any pictures?
Actually send me some pics and prices for each and hopefully we can work something out.
lucky score given wmva doesn't sell parts anymore
Hopefully Cohiba gets back to me. I really would love to have it. They look like fine stocks and haven't heard anything bad about them at all!! *crosses fingers*
I've never seen the WMV stock ???
Any pics around for it? Couldn't find it in a search.
there are a few members around the forum that have them
to me you see one wire stock you have seen them all
some have a detach option others dont
airguns100 just made his own and it looks good too. he put a little different spin on it
I remember seeing airguns100's... it was nice and I liked his design. :)
If I remember MuzzleMack, or now HPA, used to make the best looking wire stock on the market. Not sure why he stopped or if perhaps he is coming up with a new design.
Carl
I wish some more people would start making them again. Seems like I got back into air guns a little late. I see posts from people just last year that were buying wire stocks from multiple people. Now there are hardly anybody that has them. Seems like a good time for the "next man up" to step up. Im sure there is still a market for them from the people I've spoke with.
I know there's a market for them, but is there any money in them? I'll admit, I don't search around for prices on parts...I fire up the Smithy and make what I need/want. What's the going rate on a wire stock?
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/Check%20valve/Stirrup%20pump/Airguns/2289/IMG_2955.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/gippeto_album/media/Check%20valve/Stirrup%20pump/Airguns/2289/IMG_2955.jpg.html)
Al
Nice gippeto... "Z" style :-*
Danke. :)
Quote from: Gippeto on April 12, 2013, 12:50:51 AM
I know there's a market for them, but is there any money in them? I'll admit, I don't search around for prices on parts...I fire up the Smithy and make what I need/want. What's the going rate on a wire stock?
(http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gippeto_album/Check%20valve/Stirrup%20pump/Airguns/2289/IMG_2955.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/gippeto_album/media/Check%20valve/Stirrup%20pump/Airguns/2289/IMG_2955.jpg.html)
Al
got an adjustable one for $65 dollars from sean(wvm) last year
I want one for sure, just worried about it eventually starting to wobble. Hopefully they stay pretty solid. I'd like to have someone make me a stainless steel piece that hooks into the gun so I could crank down on the screws without the worry of stripping the threads.
I think Mr. Gippeto's butt plate and tube adapters are stainless..I am basing it on the sheen w/c is different from aluminum but I could be wrong..Yes ss is the way to go..Not so long ago I wanted 1 made for me but when my Crosman 1399 stocks arrived I liked them so much so I did not bother anymore..
This would look cool on a tube stock..Best regards.
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a214/hexcanemaker/Wokbutt%20picts/MiniWokbutt04.jpg)
heres one i made its a mild steel adapter that is modelled on the as2250 88g bottle mount(which i was using till i made this adapter) some 22mm ally tube with a threaded insert pressed in at either end so it can be attached to the butt plate and adapter
the sling mount at the rear is threaded into the rear insert and i finished it off with a landing net float as a cheek piece
ped
Quote from: crossliner on April 12, 2013, 01:34:14 PM
I think Mr. Gippeto's butt plate and tube adapters are stainless..I am basing it on the sheen w/c is different from aluminum but I could be wrong..Yes ss is the way to go..Not so long ago I wanted 1 made for me but when my Crosman 1399 stocks arrived I liked them so much so I did not bother anymore..
This would look cool on a tube stock..Best regards.
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a214/hexcanemaker/Wokbutt%20picts/MiniWokbutt04.jpg)
This is an AF Edge butt stock. You may be able to purchase the butpads and use them on a custom stock??
I'm seeing some pretty amazing stuff after starting this thread..
My stock is aluminum on both ends...the "wire" part is 1/2" dia mild steel.
Al
I had a straight wire stock from workinmanva on a 1377. I chose this design because the cheek weld was good for use with a scope.
Quote from: arkmaker on April 12, 2013, 02:11:51 PM
This is an AF Edge butt stock. You may be able to purchase the butpads and use them on a custom stock??
Yes sir from here but I think you have already been here you being an AF owner..Best regards.
http://www.talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9980&start=0 (http://www.talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9980&start=0)
Now I'm wondering should I go with bent stock or straight stock...??
Get both! Your going to need another one for your next build ;)
Quote from: arkmaker on April 12, 2013, 04:28:12 PM
Get both! Your going to need another one for your next build ;)
You guys really don't help out my addiction!! After I posted my last message I KNEW someone was gonna say buy both because that's what I started thinking after I tried to decide which one I wanted. Would be nice to be able to switch back and forth if I wanted to tho..
Quote from: crossliner on April 12, 2013, 01:34:14 PM
I think Mr. Gippeto's butt plate and tube adapters are stainless..I am basing it on the sheen w/c is different from aluminum but I could be wrong..Yes ss is the way to go..Not so long ago I wanted 1 made for me but when my Crosman 1399 stocks arrived I liked them so much so I did not bother anymore..
This would look cool on a tube stock..Best regards.
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a214/hexcanemaker/Wokbutt%20picts/MiniWokbutt04.jpg)
That butt plate piece is not a standard AF Edge piece but comes from Adam (WalknnKing) a moderator on the TAG forum. I have a couple of them and think Rich has one on his Edge that I included.
Carl
That would look REALLY good on my 1377 build..lol.
Quote from: Baltim0re28 on April 12, 2013, 05:41:12 PM
That would look REALLY good on my 1377 build..lol.
Here's a link to the parts and pieces Adam sells.
http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9980 (http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9980)
Carl
Quote from: quickster47 on April 12, 2013, 05:45:37 PM
Here's a link to the parts and pieces Adam sells.
http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9980 (http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9980)
Carl
Thanks!
QuoteNow I'm wondering should I go with bent stock or straight stock...??
A lot to consider. It might depend on your sighting system. With iron sights, you need a bent stock. With a red dot sight, depending on the mount and/or adapter, you may want the straight stock. With scope rings: high rings, go with a straight stock. Low rings, you're gonna need a bent stock to get a cheek weld low enough to see through the scope. Straight stock, will have a cheek weld as high as a RAP4 stock w/adapter. See through rings are high but with a straight stock, you won't be able to get your eye low enough to see through them to use the iron sights (which is the purpose of see-through rings).
All that is with a standard height breech, riser breeches (to use with a full barrel shroud) won't have those issues but any of those might need a cheek piece depending on the sighting system height.
Also, what look are you going for?
And surely there is more that I haven't thought of.
Cheers,
Quote from: JEBert on April 12, 2013, 09:32:55 PM
A lot to consider. It might depend on your sighting system. With iron sights, you need a bent stock. With a red dot sight, depending on the mount and/or adapter, you may want the straight stock. With scope rings: high rings, go with a straight stock. Low rings, you're gonna need a bent stock to get a cheek weld low enough to see through the scope. Straight stock, will have a cheek weld as high as a RAP4 stock w/adapter. See through rings are high but with a straight stock, you won't be able to get your eye low enough to see through them to use the iron sights (which is the purpose of see-through rings).
All that is with a standard height breech, riser breeches (to use with a full barrel shroud) won't have those issues but any of those might need a cheek piece depending on the sighting system height.
Also, what look are you going for?
And surely there is more that I haven't thought of.
Cheers,
More than likely ill be putting a scope on it. Have scopes on all of my other guns and pretty much prefer a scope over anything else. Not really sure where I'm going with this build. For some reason this one doesn't really have a set idea like my others.. Kinda just rolling with it. I do think I'm going with some wood grips on this one tho. My 2289 and 2400kt are both sporting the 1399 stocks and the plastic/composite matching foregrip. I like the looks of the bent and the straight stocks and just can't really decide OR know what's comfortable without trying each. You have given me a plethora of information in your post and I appreciate it. Choices, choices..
Quote from: JEBert on April 12, 2013, 09:32:55 PM
A lot to consider. It might depend on your sighting system. With iron sights, you need a bent stock. With a red dot sight, depending on the mount and/or adapter, you may want the straight stock. With scope rings: high rings, go with a straight stock. Low rings, you're gonna need a bent stock to get a cheek weld low enough to see through the scope. Straight stock, will have a cheek weld as high as a RAP4 stock w/adapter. See through rings are high but with a straight stock, you won't be able to get your eye low enough to see through them to use the iron sights (which is the purpose of see-through rings).
All that is with a standard height breech, riser breeches (to use with a full barrel shroud) won't have those issues but any of those might need a cheek piece depending on the sighting system height.
Also, what look are you going for?
And surely there is more that I haven't thought of.
Cheers,
Great info.
Quote from: JEBert on April 12, 2013, 09:32:55 PM
A lot to consider. It might depend on your sighting system. With iron sights, you need a bent stock. With a red dot sight, depending on the mount and/or adapter, you may want the straight stock. With scope rings: high rings, go with a straight stock. Low rings, you're gonna need a bent stock to get a cheek weld low enough to see through the scope. Straight stock, will have a cheek weld as high as a RAP4 stock w/adapter. See through rings are high but with a straight stock, you won't be able to get your eye low enough to see through them to use the iron sights (which is the purpose of see-through rings).
All that is with a standard height breech, riser breeches (to use with a full barrel shroud) won't have those issues but any of those might need a cheek piece depending on the sighting system height.
Also, what look are you going for?
And surely there is more that I haven't thought of.
Cheers,
Great post Jerry! :-*
Quote from: quickster47 on April 12, 2013, 05:45:37 PM
Here's a link to the parts and pieces Adam sells.
http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9980 (http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9980)
Carl
I know this is off topic don't stone me please
while I was at the shop today I got to check out the new condor ss and it was a beauty. nice and maneuverable didn't get to shoot it but it is light
just thought I would share after seeing the talon tunes link
Quote from: 1377x on April 13, 2013, 07:24:26 AM
I know this is off topic don't stone me please
while I was at the shop today I got to check out the new condor ss and it was a beauty. nice and maneuverable didn't get to shoot it but it is light
just thought I would share after seeing the talon tunes link
I don't mind at all.. Now if I end up looking into one and eventually purchasing one, I wouldn't be the person to worry about anyway.. I'm gonna point my other half in YOUR direction when she starts asking why I bought another airgun. ;)
Wondering should I ask this somewhere else but I'll try here and see the responses I get.. Anyone know where I could get a pointed stainless or aluminum breech end cap? I know with all the guys in here making custom parts, someone has them or can make them.
Yes something like this but it's a pointed 2400kt tube cap to match my pointed C02 cap w/ pointed brass insert..I had it redone though ( this is an old pic) and had the tapering moved further back so that it matches well w/ the flat breech plug..It's wrong as you can see but it's been rectified. Best regards..
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_4347.jpg)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww96/DARKHORSE1967/100_4345.jpg)
I'd like to find someone that is making them in stainless or aluminum. For right now I only want the end cap for the breech. Next will be for the tube. Btw, that looks great!!
contact chongman he may be able to help send him a pm