Ok so tonight I decided I had time for a quickie trigger job on the new 2240...
Well one thing lead to another and I decided since I was there... I might as well install the brass safety.. NO I did not loose the ball or spring, :P :P But not for lack of tryng!! LOL.. it went flying twice and the spring went at least twice more... Once I convinced my self I did NOT NEED a safety... :o :o :o
But I finally found a mall screw driver and using unknown patience... I got it!! But it got me thinking, there muct be a better way that I do not know. So seeing that I have one more to do on the .77. ...
How did you install your brass safety pin?
CW
The easiest way to install/remove the safety is to remove the grip frame from the main tube, then remove the side plate form the grip frame, the spring is held between the ball and the main tube in the slot, much easier to work with the tube off...
I so should let Jerry answer this, as he taught me ;)
The trick is to remove the trigger frame off of the tube first. When you take them apart, hold them upright vertically. Take the tube straight up and off, and the spring stays in place. Do this over a towel, so if the spring or something else comes out (it probably won't)... it can't roll away. I usually just pull the spring out at this point, and tip the frame over and let the ball roll out onto the towel.
(edit... looks like Bob was writing his out at the same time I was ;) )
Rest of the story:
When you finish your trigger job, put the safety in place, pull the trigger to make sure the safety is in right, put the cover back on, THEN drop the ball into its groove followed by the spring and put the trigger frame back onto the air tube. That way, there is never any tension on the safety spring while the cover is off so the ball and spring won't go anywhere.
Cheers,
The one thing I have started doing is applying a small dab of grease to the spring and then using that grease to hold the ball in place on the spring and then also it will hold the ball and spring in the safety slot.
I got this from the Crosman 1701P trigger frames as that is they way they keep them in place.
Try it, you'll like it. :)
Carl
But really....you should just go ahead and lose at least one spring and ball. Then you can be part of the elite group of others that have done that at least once. :-[
QuoteBut really....you should just go ahead and lose at least one spring and ball. Then you can be part of the elite group of others that have done that at least once. :-[
Agreed. Also, you need to put all of the screws, springs, and all of the small parts into an egg carton or something similar to keep them all together, and when you have them all in there, knock the whole container off of the table scattering everything in all directions. That's when it will happen anyway. :)
Cheers,
Quote from: JEBert on May 03, 2013, 06:35:03 AM
Agreed. Also, you need to put all of the screws, springs, and all of the small parts into an egg carton or something similar to keep them all together, and when you have them all in there, knock the whole container off of the table scattering everything in all directions. That's when it will happen anyway. :)
Cheers,
done that jerry i now use a jam jar lid with some really strong earth magnets underneath
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Thanks guys!! :-\ :-\ :-*
I KNEW you would have a better way!!
CW
Best way I found was to buy a large bag of BBs and a large bag of springs. I haven't lost a one since I did that !
Quote from: droid on May 03, 2013, 12:57:46 PM
Best way I found was to buy a large bag of BBs and a large bag of springs. I haven't lost a one since I did that !
Gary I'm with you on that one. Bought the extras nine months ago and nary a problem since. ???
Carl
Quote from: quickster47 on May 03, 2013, 02:01:42 PM
Gary I'm with you on that one. Bought the extras nine months ago and nary a problem since. ???
Carl
I thought of that myself... But then said "how hard can it be"...
I was very lucky, twice the ball went flying once bouncing off me and falling back into the grip. Second time again off me then the bench back to rest on my rag I was working on. Now the spring... That sailed onto the floor twice but was seen both times and once off the back of the bench. One thing I learned long ago you cannot work if you cannot see. I have a dual halogen 300W lights over my bench as well as a lighted magnifier bolted to my one bench. ;)
When the second safety arrives, I'll be ready to put it in!
Thanks again everyone!!
CW
300 watt bulbs! Are you tanning while your working?
"The best layed plans of mice and men." You get a magnetic parts tray for your parts so you don't loose them and the cat gets on the workbench while you're off getting coffee and knocks the tray off the workbench >:(
Love this thread, glad I'm not the only clutz that has parts flying while working on things. ;D ;D ;D
Two tips:
1. If you choose not to remove the grip frame, place the safety in the "fire" position and clamp a wooden clothespin onto the left side of the safety pin, pressed up tight against the left side of the grip frame. This keeps the pin straight and in position, and hopefully keeps the ball & spring in there as well. Take off the trigger cover, then quickly apply a piece of masking tape over the ball and spring until you're done working on the trigger.
2. If the ball and spring are removed, I do the following to reinstall (again, if you choose not to remove the grip-frame)
- insert spring into position in groove
- insert the tip of an Xacto knife under the spring and use the side of the blade to push up on the spring to make space for the ball
- use fine tip tweezers (or a toothpick with a dab of grease on it) to place the ball under the spring in the groove
- carefully lower the spring onto the ball whilst holding the spring/ball in the groove (with the tweezers/toothpick)
- quickly apply a piece of masking tape over the spring/ball to prevent ejection
This is not easy to do, but it's possible with enough practice.
JMJ
Method 1: same as yours, plus a little grease to hold onto the ball/spring
Preferred Method (takes more time) with breech and main tube off of the grip frame, the safety can be replaced and the spring and ball can be dropped down into the hole (ball first) from the top of the trigger frame.
Quote from: onebaddj on May 03, 2013, 02:26:48 PM
300 watt bulbs! Are you tanning while your working?
LOL, I like to see what I am doing. ;)
Thanks again everyone!!!
CW