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Crosman air pistol - General => Crosman air pistol - General discussion => Topic started by: USMA-1982 on June 23, 2013, 05:59:01 AM

Title: The Dissuader!
Post by: USMA-1982 on June 23, 2013, 05:59:01 AM
Mockingbirds have discovered my wife's blueberry bushes.  She's been chasing them away with a broom, but they only fly as far as a white oak in the neighbor's yard and as soon as the coast is clear they swoop back in.  Picked up this 190fps air soft at Gander Mtn for $12 bucks to discourage them.  Pinged one on the leg this evening, don't think I did any permanent damage, but no more Mockingbirds in the blueberries at least for tonight.  Tomorrow is another day however.  Coffee on the deck  in the morning with the "Dissuader".

(http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p734/USMA-1982/Misc/9c4cb8c0-1297-4746-8f17-d230c005835a_zpsdfe60266.jpg) (http://s1348.photobucket.com/user/USMA-1982/media/Misc/9c4cb8c0-1297-4746-8f17-d230c005835a_zpsdfe60266.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: jSan22 on June 23, 2013, 07:37:48 AM
if they were eating my blueberries, and if it was legal, they would have lead poisoning!
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: chongman on June 23, 2013, 12:55:55 PM
 ;D  Ping!
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: breakfastchef on June 23, 2013, 01:54:51 PM
The awesomeness of a 0.3 joule pistol! I bought a similar pistol to shoo away raccoons from the bird  and suet feeders on the deck. One day I unloaded four shots into a coons belly. He scratched a few times like he had an itch and kept eating.
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: USMA-1982 on June 23, 2013, 03:59:22 PM
Raining this morning so coffee inside.  I've been watching from the kitchen window though and the Mbirds are staying away for the time being.  Raccoons would definitely call for heavier artillery, but I kind of like the Mockingbirds.  They have personality, plus they eat a lot of bugs.

Incidentally, the trigger broke on the third shot, but what can you expect from a $12 pistol.  I took it apart and saw that the pivot pin was molded into the trigger and had snapped off cleanly on one side.  So I ground off the other side, drilled it and inserted a new SS pivot pin I made from a 7/64 drill bit that had snapped working on another project.  Reassembled and it shoots just fine, in fact the trigger pull is much smoother with the new SS pin as opposed to plastic pins in plastic pivot holes (is there a technical term for the holes - well, you know what I mean).  But the point of this little vignette is that before getting hooked on Crosmans and joining this forum, I would have headed straight back to Gander or even just tossed it.  Instead it turned into a fun little project and my little plastic air soft is now a "sweet" shooter!
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: KevinP on June 23, 2013, 06:33:48 PM
 (is there a technical term for the holes -

perhaps, but not on this forum ....   ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: USMA-1982 on June 23, 2013, 07:03:29 PM
Sssspppplllltttttt!  Coffee all over the iPad
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: Fronzdan on June 24, 2013, 06:24:20 AM
Haha...I once tried a full auto air soft shooting in the high 300's fps on a skunk, who was trashing my lawn looking for grubs.  It actually walked toward me while I unloaded about 100 bbs on it.  Must have felt like a good back scratch cuz he just slowly walked away, taking his time to stop and sniff a few more times.  Plus he came back for more a couple nights later.
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: Tater on June 24, 2013, 06:30:10 AM
Modding/tweaking a $12 Airsoft pistol.......awesome.   :D
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: USMA-1982 on June 24, 2013, 12:11:12 PM
Fronzdan, if I had a skunk in my yard, I would be the one to slowly back away.  Engaging on full auto, wow!

Jerry, yes it really is a disease.
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: agninja on June 24, 2013, 02:22:34 PM
I wonder if you can flat top those airsoft guns, lolz.  :D

I shot a bird once with an airsoft sniper rifle I have. I think it shoots about 500 fps. The thing dropped like a rock and didn't move for a couple minutes. Eventually it woke up, shook it off, and flew away. I'm pretty sure it got the message I was sending. 
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: USMA-1982 on June 24, 2013, 07:26:49 PM
At 500 fps I think I'd get the message too!

Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: agninja on June 24, 2013, 07:49:37 PM
Quote from: USMA-1982 on June 24, 2013, 07:26:49 PM
At 500 fps I think I'd get the message too!
Trust me, I know that message all too well. I was shot in the face by a similar airsoft rifle the first time I ever played. A sniper snuck into our HQ and nobody bothered to secure our perimeter. My shemagh wasn't covering my face then because I was drinking and relaxing and thought I was safe. Then all of a sudden I look up and see a ghili suit and a scope and just as I duck down, the round that was aimed at my center of mass instead hit me right in the chin!
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: USMA-1982 on June 26, 2013, 02:20:24 PM
Haha, a sniper sneaking into your HQ in a ghillie suit - l'audace, l'audace, toujours l'audace!
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: breakfastchef on June 26, 2013, 03:46:48 PM
I rooted through a cabinet yesterday for the airsoft pistol I purchased for dissuading squirrels and coons from eating at the "all day buffet". Turns out it is the same pistol as USMA-1982 bought. And, when I went to test fire it, the trigger pivot point had broken off so it would not fire. So, as the OP did, I drilled out and replaced the pivots with sections of drill bits. Then I did a lube tune. For fun, I ran it over the chronograph and am getting a whopping 149 fps out of it.
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: mudduck48 on June 26, 2013, 06:05:58 PM
I did the same thing. I bought an airsoft to chase the pigeons and crows off. I put wild bird food out for my doves and the pigeons and crows were getting into it. Here is my dissuader. Crosman P311.
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: USMA-1982 on June 26, 2013, 07:12:32 PM
How's the trigger on that 311?  ;-)
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: USMA-1982 on June 26, 2013, 07:30:56 PM
Hey Larry - I'll never throw away a broken drill bit again. Now I know there's a good use for them.  I think they'd work in Crosman actions as well and SS might be smoother than stock.  Might have to try it out.
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: mudduck48 on June 26, 2013, 08:46:40 PM
Quote from: USMA-1982 on June 26, 2013, 07:12:32 PM
How's the trigger on that 311?  ;-)
Real nice. It has a little resistance, then it breaks off clean. On a good day I can put 10 shots in a 2" circle at 15". I use the 20G BB's. This gun is made by KWC, the same people that make the Tanfoglio Witness 1911. It also is the exact same size as a real 1911. Here is a picture of my Witness 1911 bb pistol. Both guns are  made in Taiwan.
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: USMA-1982 on June 26, 2013, 10:04:47 PM
Wow - that's pretty accurate.  My Palco (I think that's the brand name) can put 10 shots on the broad side of a barn at 15' :-)  Actually, POI is within about 3" of POA at that range, it shoots a bit high.  I use a six o'clock hold on the mockingbirds.  The Witness looks like an authentic 1911 - very nice!
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: mudduck48 on June 26, 2013, 11:38:46 PM
Well, I tried. Guess this isn't that good day I was telling you about, but you get the idea. Sitting down one hand at 15" with the 20G BB's. And that is a 2" circle. It's realy more fun to shoot at cans and small birds with it. I would sell you one for $10, but the shipping would kill it. Just go to Walmart or Amazon. It cost $14.97 at both, but maybe your walmart would be cheaper with the sales tax and you might get lucky and get an all black one. If you do get one, do not shoot the cheap 12G bb's in it!! Only the 20G or heavier.
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: USMA-1982 on June 27, 2013, 03:54:41 AM
I'm going to look for one!
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: agninja on June 27, 2013, 03:14:40 PM
I got a nice 1911 replica like that from Walmart. It was clear plastic. I put a string around the trigger guard and dangled it from a tree limb and spray painted it black.  It looks like a real gun now.  I think it shoots around 250 fps. These guns can be pretty accurate at close distances once you get used to the upward spin and the strange trajectory imparted on the bb.
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: T191032 on July 03, 2013, 09:32:32 PM
Not bad, for a single-shot "plastic BB" shooter.  Still prefer the more accurate lead slinging airguns, though.

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z157/T191032/Air%20Soft/CrosmanStingerP3116mm_zps9160c189.jpg) (http://s194.photobucket.com/user/T191032/media/Air%20Soft/CrosmanStingerP3116mm_zps9160c189.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: mudduck48 on July 03, 2013, 11:56:13 PM
Quote from: T191032 on July 03, 2013, 09:32:32 PM
Not bad, for a single-shot "plastic BB" shooter.  Still prefer the more accurate lead slinging airguns, though.

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z157/T191032/Air%20Soft/CrosmanStingerP3116mm_zps9160c189.jpg) (http://s194.photobucket.com/user/T191032/media/Air%20Soft/CrosmanStingerP3116mm_zps9160c189.jpg.html)
Nice, you found a black one. 8)
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: T191032 on July 04, 2013, 12:29:29 AM
"Nice, you found a black one."

Yup.  Local Wal-Mart a few months back.
Title: Re: The Dissuader!
Post by: jSan22 on July 06, 2013, 01:01:56 AM
i feel stupid now. i misread mockingbird as magpie. whoops.