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Title: Did some shooting with the 2400KT .177 Carbine today
Post by: T191032 on July 17, 2013, 04:23:15 AM
Well, I got out the Crosman Custom Shop "T191032 2400KT Carbine" and did some accuracy testing with it.  I have not spent any time with it in some time, so I was glad to get in to the basement (got a heat wave going here in VA, ya know) and see how the Carbine would perform. 

For pellets, I knew from previous testing the H&N Sport Wadcutter did rather well in this 18" .177 carbine.  I also knew I was getting a little "thin" in the single tin I had on hand and was wondering if anything might be "suitable" to be used from the stock on hand.  I decided to try RWS Basic, Hobby and Meisterkuglen 8.2gr in addition to some Crosman Competition and Gamo Match Waductters, plus I threw in the Stoeger X-Match, which I believe to be H&Ns, as well.

I drew the pellets straight from the tin for all but Gamo Match Wadcutters, which had been weight sorted; these were from the 7.7gr sorted lot.  I admit I messed up a little bit in my shot count, because I was trying to get my best 'bang for the buck' pellet/Powerlet ratio, then changed the protocol just a bit.

Crosman Custom Shop T191032 2400KT Carbine
.177 18" Barrel
Bushnell Banner 4-12x40mm A. O., scope set to 8X Power
Distance 10 Meters

Pellet :

RWS Basic -

Group 1 : 0.477"
Group 2 : 0.306"
Group 3 : 0.401"
Group 4 : 0.371"

Average : 0.38875"


RWS Hobby -

Group 1 : 0.440"
Group 2 : 0.441"
Group 3 : 0.498"
Group 4 : 0.381"

Average : 0.44"


RWS Meisterkuglen Heavy -

Group 1 : 0.345"
Group 2 : 0.363"
Group 3 : 0.279"
Group 4 : 0.306"

Average : 0.32325"


Crosman Competition -

Group 1 : 0.776"
Group 2 : 0.726"
Group 3 : 0.425"
Group 4 : First two groups said "No" to me

Average : 0.642333"


Gamo Match -

Group 1 : 0.38"
Group 2 : 0.348"
Group 3 : 0.699" (Lot of shooting, think I was partly to blame for this one)
Group 4 : 0.669"

Average : 0.524"


Stoeger X-Match -

Group 1 : 0.38"
Group 2 : 0.555"
Group 3 : 0.349"
Group 4 : 0.506"

Average : 0.4475"


Well, in looking over the results, it shows the RWS Meisterkuglen Heavy wadcutters to shoot pretty decently in the 2400KT, when I'm locked down onto the benchrest pretty good and not jerking the trigger.  POA/POI seems to vary a little, as I was trying to aim for the bullseye center of each.

Of course, this is all pretty worthless without pictures, so here they are -


(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z157/T191032/Air%20Pistol%20Silhouette%20Shooting/Target012013-07-168319_zpsafd2e55b.jpg) (http://s194.photobucket.com/user/T191032/media/Air%20Pistol%20Silhouette%20Shooting/Target012013-07-168319_zpsafd2e55b.jpg.html)


(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z157/T191032/Air%20Pistol%20Silhouette%20Shooting/Target022013-07-168321_zps8e13f347.jpg) (http://s194.photobucket.com/user/T191032/media/Air%20Pistol%20Silhouette%20Shooting/Target022013-07-168321_zps8e13f347.jpg.html)



(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z157/T191032/Air%20Guns/Crosman2400KT5801.jpg) (http://s194.photobucket.com/user/T191032/media/Air%20Guns/Crosman2400KT5801.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Did some shooting with the 2400KT .177 Carbine today
Post by: tinker on July 17, 2013, 04:38:29 AM
Nice! Groups should tighten up a bit more after a good break in.

Glen
Title: Re: Did some shooting with the 2400KT .177 Carbine today
Post by: breakfastchef on July 17, 2013, 04:56:44 AM
Basics for fun and Mr. K's for the money shot. The last tins of Basics I got were $5.06 from Walmart or Amazon. Really good pellet at a terrific price.
Title: Re: Did some shooting with the 2400KT .177 Carbine today
Post by: T191032 on July 18, 2013, 12:09:43 AM
I guess I was just concentrating more yesterday than previously; as I had not found the Basics to be kind to me accuracy wise.  Like those Meisterkuglens though.  Got plenty of Gamos to work through.
Title: Re: Did some shooting with the 2400KT .177 Carbine today
Post by: KevinP on July 18, 2013, 07:01:15 AM
Looking good, nice shooting ...   :-*
Title: Re: Did some shooting with the 2400KT .177 Carbine today
Post by: BigErn on July 18, 2013, 02:32:12 PM
That's a good one!  Great looking and shooter  :-*
Title: Re: Did some shooting with the 2400KT .177 Carbine today
Post by: onebaddj on July 19, 2013, 04:36:14 AM
That prettty good groups woth alot of different pellets. Nice.
Title: Re: Did some shooting with the 2400KT .177 Carbine today
Post by: airriflenut on July 19, 2013, 04:48:44 AM
Some very respectable groups! :-*

I was looking at the same Custom 2400KT last night for the wife, showed her the cost, $86 and some coin, and she couldn't believe how inexpensive it was.  Told her it would cost more for me to get the base 2240 and all the parts to build one...she told me to order it!!! :o :o. I'm still considering doing it.
Title: Re: Did some shooting with the 2400KT .177 Carbine today
Post by: KevinP on July 19, 2013, 10:17:48 AM
 :o :o   .she told me to order it!!! :o :o. I'm still considering doing it.

???  just do it ........................
Title: Re: Did some shooting with the 2400KT .177 Carbine today
Post by: woody67 on July 19, 2013, 11:24:53 AM
Yeah, order now, cause it will take up to three weeks to get it!
Title: Re: Did some shooting with the 2400KT .177 Carbine today
Post by: BDS on July 19, 2013, 11:47:05 AM
Quote from: airriflenut on July 19, 2013, 04:48:44 AM
Some very respectable groups! :-*

I was looking at the same Custom 2400KT last night for the wife, showed her the cost, $86 and some coin, and she couldn't believe how inexpensive it was.  Told her it would cost more for me to get the base 2240 and all the parts to build one...she told me to order it!!! :o :o. I'm still considering doing it.

What  ??? :D Wife says go get it and you are "considering it"   :o
I would have 2 of them ordered by now  :-*
Title: Re: Did some shooting with the 2400KT .177 Carbine today
Post by: woody67 on July 19, 2013, 03:55:42 PM
Quote from: BDS on July 19, 2013, 11:47:05 AM
What  ??? :D Wife says go get it and you are "considering it"   :o
I would have 2 of them ordered by now  :-*

Yeah, but it's FOR his wife, not him.
Title: Re: Did some shooting with the 2400KT .177 Carbine today
Post by: Tater on July 19, 2013, 04:36:37 PM
Quote from: woody67 on July 19, 2013, 03:55:42 PM
Yeah, but it's FOR his wife, not him.

That's what she thinks...
Title: Re: Did some shooting with the 2400KT .177 Carbine today
Post by: BDS on July 23, 2013, 02:03:18 PM
Quote from: Tater on July 19, 2013, 04:36:37 PM
That's what she thinks...

Exactly :-*
Title: Re: Did some shooting with the 2400KT .177 Carbine today
Post by: T191032 on July 27, 2013, 09:40:27 PM
Quote from: airriflenut on July 19, 2013, 04:48:44 AM
Some very respectable groups! :-*

I was looking at the same Custom 2400KT last night for the wife, showed her the cost, $86 and some coin, and she couldn't believe how inexpensive it was.  Told her it would cost more for me to get the base 2240 and all the parts to build one...she told me to order it!!! :o :o. I'm still considering doing it.

Oh yeah, seen your posts about getting her one, Do it!  :-*
Title: Re: Did some shooting with the 2400KT .177 Carbine today
Post by: arkmaker † on July 27, 2013, 09:51:30 PM
Never had any luck with any of the Gamo pellets. Best I found in that brand were the 177 Hunter domes, but that ain't saying much. No love here for Gamo.


Looks like the Miester's did you well. I too, love the RWS brand of pellets. Always a good to great shooting pellet. Very few mis-shaped and very clean right out of the tin. I shoot the heck out of the Basic's in 177 and Superdomes in .22. Just have to love them for the price and kind of leisurely target shooting that I do.


All in all it sure does look like you got a good one out of the Custom Shop. I would take any of those groups with a smile  :)  But, then, you know how I shoot, so that isn't fair.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Did some shooting with the 2400KT .177 Carbine today
Post by: T191032 on July 28, 2013, 09:53:28 PM
Just a thought I had the past couple days.  Was looking through the Custom Shop and considered a Carbine with iron sights, as a backup to an optic (that I have).  Dug out my .22 T191032 with the 14" barrel and set the optic, still wearing the High see-thru Weaver rings and noticed that the Williams Notch rear would be a problem with that setup.  Glad I thought of my .22 and pulled it out before proceeding.  LOL

Anyone ever gotten the LPA sights on their 2400KT to use as a sighting device?
Title: Re: Did some shooting with the 2400KT .177 Carbine today
Post by: JEBert on July 28, 2013, 10:04:44 PM
T,
I recieved one a few weeks ago.  I ordered it as a parts gun because I am building or modifying 4 others.  I wanted a LPA MIM sight for a pistol, an engraved tube for a G-II project, a brass trigger shoe with matching brass muzzle brake for another gun and a 14.5" barrel for yet another gun.  When the new 2400KT came in, I decided to shoot it before I took it apart and I really like it.  I might just keep it like it is except for the brass parts.  The MIM sight works very well with the factory muzzle brake and short sight pin.  I have used long sight pins with the WGRS-54 that I uses on a couple of other builds and they work OK too.
Oh, I've only shot it at 5M so far.  That's all the room I have in my shed.
Cheers,