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Crosman air pistol - General => Crosman air pistol - General discussion => Topic started by: RetatCDude on August 23, 2013, 06:09:17 PM

Title: My Two Day Old 1701P
Post by: RetatCDude on August 23, 2013, 06:09:17 PM
Well, Crosman received it this morning. I (we on the forum) think that some debris somehow was inserted into the checkvalve preventing it from closing and thus kept the pistol from holding air. The first two days I used the pistol, I used my scuba tank. On the 3rd day, I thought I would try the pump. Why not? It pressurized quickly but I didn't hear the check valve close as is normal when pumping in air or using a tank. Anyway, I de-pressuriazed the hose and tried a shot shot (I didn't check the gauge on the pistol after de-pressurizing) and the pistol went Pfffft! Checked the gauge and it was zero. Filled the gun with the scuba tank and before de-pressurizing the hose, shot out the pellet that I knew was still in the barrel. Then de-pressurized and watched the gauge go to zero. Called Crosman, they sent a label, shipped it, they received it today. Called them and of course, the technician is off today. I told them what the folks here told me that some debris got into the check valve and should be an easy repair. She said she would leave a note for the technician on monday and after repair they air the gun up, leave it for 24 hours to make sure it is ok, then let the air out and ship it back,. I also ordered some grips from Ralph at RB grips last friday. He said that would take three weeks so, it looks like all of the stars will line up at about the same time. I figure I should have the pistol back by September 5.
Title: Re: My Two Day Old 1701P
Post by: quickster47 † on August 23, 2013, 08:31:34 PM
The hardest thing now is the waiting.  But it shall pass quickly, maybe.

Carl
Title: Re: My Two Day Old 1701P
Post by: RetatCDude on August 28, 2013, 11:57:19 PM
Sue Peidmont, Crosman Corporation, Director of Customer Service, called today. The 1701P is fixed and will be in my grubby hands next Wednesday, 9-5-13.. :P
Title: Re: My Two Day Old 1701P
Post by: bgmcgee on August 29, 2013, 01:05:11 AM
Cool deal :-*
Title: Re: My Two Day Old 1701P
Post by: chongman on August 29, 2013, 01:18:17 AM
Outstanding!  Sue is good people, she's helped me out quite a few times.
Title: Re: My Two Day Old 1701P
Post by: 1377x on August 30, 2013, 07:17:46 AM
good luck!
when you get it back make sure your pump connector and scuba hose connect are free of debris before using them
use nice blast of air from the scuba tank to make sure the pump hose connector is clean
Title: Re: My Two Day Old 1701P
Post by: Fronzdan on August 30, 2013, 07:32:04 AM
Too bad I missed the earlier discussion.  I could have walked you through the fix.  I've had this happen before.  It'll be there before you know it!
Title: Re: My Two Day Old 1701P
Post by: RetatCDude on August 30, 2013, 03:33:51 PM
The hose on the pump and both tanks now where little plastic bags, fixed with removable zip-ties...... >:(
Title: Re: My Two Day Old 1701P
Post by: 1377x on August 30, 2013, 05:14:30 PM
its a good idea to keep them covered
airgunsmith.com sells an adapter that mounts to a pump ,it has a nipple on it for the hose to attach to.
if it does happen again it is a relatively easy fix
i had it happen to me also. unfortunately i build my guns from parts and dont get the luxury of sending them to crosman for warranty repair.
with the help of others on this forum i got the fill adapter fixed and was back shooting in no time
Title: Re: My Two Day Old 1701P
Post by: RetatCDude on September 01, 2013, 08:04:03 PM
The 1701P is now due for delievery afternoon, Tuesday. It is at UPS depot 32 miles away.... >:(
Title: Re: My Two Day Old 1701P
Post by: RetatCDude on September 04, 2013, 04:41:32 AM
It has arrived. Thought it was the air valve at the front. Note from Crosman: Installed new gauage and performed leak test. 2000psi when I opened the box....
Title: Re: My Two Day Old 1701P
Post by: targettgii on September 04, 2013, 04:45:56 AM
That's nice getting it and it's ready to shoot. :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: My Two Day Old 1701P
Post by: RetatCDude on September 04, 2013, 05:53:14 AM
(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q733/barnydaddy/74adac7db468c32cbb9ca455bb2ce0c6_zps118bc529.jpg)
(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q733/barnydaddy/daa248f0cfc298570f6adb1f7208b63c_zpsd03cfac5.jpg)
(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q733/barnydaddy/a68bc94dd5339f8a12f28bfd191a5114_zps6ac96f0d.jpg)
So I put 3000psi in the pistol and put the Williams sight back on. Surprisingly it held zero pretty well at 15 yards (right target). Then I put the new Hawke Red Dot on. I put the Red Dot on the leading edge of the breech. This will serve as my witness mark when I take the Red Dot off to use the Williams sight. It shot a little low (left target). I cranked it up a bit and it is just about on. I will play again tomorrow. It be bed time now. Crosman put on a new gauge (crooked) so I guess it was not the front air valve. Hmmm.. I used Crosman 7.9 wadcutters tonight. Of course I wil have to find the one pellet it really likes. As it is a PCP pistol it will probably want something a little bit heavier. RB Grips should be here in a couple of weeks... :-*
Title: Re: My Two Day Old 1701P
Post by: breakfastchef on September 04, 2013, 06:07:38 AM
Really nice target pistol. Feed it a diet of top quality pellets in the 7.0g-10g wadcutters and shred the 10 ring.
Title: Re: My Two Day Old 1701P
Post by: RetatCDude on September 04, 2013, 10:44:37 PM
Like I said they replaced the gauge. It looks like a generic gauge. No company markings at all. Too, it reads higher than the gauges on either of my air tanks. I have two 4500psi tanks. One Great White and a brand new Guppy. When the gun gauge reads 3000psi, they both read 2700. The pistol shoots better than me though. So, what else is new? Trying real hard to keep both eyes open while using the red dot. When I do, I shoot much better than when I do with one. :-*
Title: Re: My Two Day Old 1701P
Post by: Wood Boats on September 04, 2013, 11:06:39 PM
Quote from: RetatCDude on September 04, 2013, 10:44:37 PM
Like I said they replaced the gauge. It looks like a generic gauge. No company markings at all. Too, it reads higher than the gauges on either of my air tanks. I have two 4500psi tanks. One Great White and a brand new Guppy. When the gun gauge reads 3000psi, they both read 2700. The pistol shoots better than me though. So, what else is new? Trying real hard to keep both eyes open while using the red dot. When I do, I shoot much better than when I do with one. :-*

Great to hear it is working for you.  The trick to the Red Dot is use the Isosceles stance.  Square up and both eyes down range.  The sight gets in the way if done correctly.  Remember that a Red Dot is also known as a Non Projecting Laser.

You had a tough row to hoe on this one so great to hear it is home and happy
Title: Re: My Two Day Old 1701P
Post by: targettgii on September 05, 2013, 02:57:15 AM
Nice to see it shooting again. :-*