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Crosman air pistol - General => Crosman air pistol - General discussion => Topic started by: Hung2 on November 23, 2013, 10:44:49 PM

Title: 1377 valve
Post by: Hung2 on November 23, 2013, 10:44:49 PM
The older valve had a metal valve stem head whereas the new ones have a Teflon head. Does the metal head give a better sealing? Did Crosman change the metal to Teflon just for cost?
Title: Re: 1377 valve
Post by: bgmcgee on November 24, 2013, 12:10:08 AM
I honestly can't give you a definitive answer but the new stem works very well.  If you think about it with the all nylon or what ever it is this makes it a tad lighter which I would think should improve performance.
Title: Re: 1377 valve
Post by: Hung2 on November 24, 2013, 02:01:54 AM
What are the school of thoughts on reduced valve volume vs enlarged valve volume? I thought a reduced valve volume with the same # of pumps would yield a higher out put pressure whereas it would be the reverse for an enlarged valve volume. Correct, yes or no?
Title: Re: 1377 valve
Post by: DBOdude on November 24, 2013, 06:34:05 AM
http://www.mp661k.com/sitedocs/13xx_HotRod.pdf (http://www.mp661k.com/sitedocs/13xx_HotRod.pdf)
Title: Re: 1377 valve
Post by: WyoMan on November 24, 2013, 08:05:25 AM
Here's a resource that a few have read...
http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,11146.0.html (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,11146.0.html)

here's another resource:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/275684/message/1358401495/Pressure+%2A+Volume+Energy%85%85.. (http://www.network54.com/Forum/275684/message/1358401495/Pressure+%2A+Volume+Energy%85%85..)

answers to your question will require explanation of barrel volume / valve volume, pump stroke efficiency, transfer volume...etc...likely to cause more questions. Best to research a little  :-*

the short answer is don't reduce your valve volume

for sealing surfaces in a knock open valve, the harder the surfaces the better...less static friction. That also means tighter machining tolerances and better gun building materials (i.e. brass instead of aluminum)...hth
Title: Re: 1377 valve
Post by: Hung2 on November 24, 2013, 06:04:11 PM
Thanks guys. I will take my time to digest all the info.