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Title: estimating velocity
Post by: Bud on June 21, 2015, 05:51:27 AM
Since purchasing my $40 1322 I probably have close to $300 altogether in it. Being on a fixed income a chronograph is out of the question. Does anybody have a way to make an educated guess as to the velocity increase from a stock 1322. I have added an Alchemy RP valve, Boss Port, heavy hammer spring, steel breech, and 24" barrel.  My SWAG would be something over 600 fps with 20 pumps and a 14.3 Crosman pellet. Anyone have a formula?" ???











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Title: Re: estimating velocity
Post by: agninja on June 21, 2015, 09:22:29 AM
Only way to tell is to do a penetration test. Maybe do it in a bar of soap or something.
Title: Re: estimating velocity
Post by: dannyboy on June 21, 2015, 02:18:48 PM
If you have "smart phone" there are a few chronograph apps that work ok.
Chrono Connect is what I use and was within 15fps of a Chrony when tested.

dan
Title: Re: estimating velocity
Post by: Bud on June 21, 2015, 07:42:04 PM
Thanks for the suggestions ;)
Title: Re: estimating velocity
Post by: jSan22 on June 21, 2015, 08:45:35 PM
Quote from: dannyboy on June 21, 2015, 02:18:48 PM
If you have "smart phone" there are a few chronograph apps that work ok.
Chrono Connect is what I use and was within 15fps of a Chrony when tested.

dan
how do you get yours to work? Ive had it several times and could never get it to work.
Title: Re: estimating velocity
Post by: Bud on June 22, 2015, 03:38:02 AM
I refuse to buy a phone that's smarter then me.  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: estimating velocity
Post by: dannyboy on June 22, 2015, 06:28:31 PM
Quote from: jSan22 on June 21, 2015, 08:45:35 PM
how do you get yours to work? Ive had it several times and could never get it to work.

It is a bit fiddly to make work:
I found the distances need to be measure very accurately to the barrel end and the target.
Keep the phone at least 1 yard from the muzzle and about 15 yards from the target.
Use a "loud" target, something that makes noise when hit, I use a steel plate at an angle to the ground.

Dan
Title: Re: estimating velocity
Post by: agninja on June 22, 2015, 07:04:46 PM
Another thing you could try. I had an airgun shop in my town and never even knew about it for several years. They have a chrony of course. You can take your gun there and give it to the guy and he will chrony it for free. That was at Airguns of Arizona.
Title: Re: estimating velocity
Post by: K.O. on June 22, 2015, 08:21:41 PM
Softchrono

https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=&oq=softchr&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADFA_enUS508US508&q=softchrono&gs_l=hp..0.0l5.0.0.0.22876...........0.eDAhRarhpmk (https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=&oq=softchr&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADFA_enUS508US508&q=softchrono&gs_l=hp..0.0l5.0.0.0.22876...........0.eDAhRarhpmk)

Audacity + math

https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=&oq=auda&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADFA_enUS508US508&q=audacity&gs_l=hp..0.0l5.0.0.1.76756...........0.hDVPhzkZ9G4 (https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=&oq=auda&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADFA_enUS508US508&q=audacity&gs_l=hp..0.0l5.0.0.1.76756...........0.hDVPhzkZ9G4)

Chair gun + match trajectories

https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADFA_enUS508US508&q=chairgun (https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADFA_enUS508US508&q=chairgun)
Title: Re: estimating velocity
Post by: oconeedan on June 23, 2015, 03:44:05 PM
Those are all good suggesions, I like KO's suggestions.

Post where you live, maybe there is someone near you with a chronograph.  In fact, there probably is, you just have to find them.  Go to local gun forums too.  Archery shops usually have one, you'll have to provide something to shoot into as they don't want your pellets in their archery targets.  Maybe gun ranges, both indoor and outdoor. 
Dan
Title: Re: estimating velocity
Post by: mudduck48 on June 23, 2015, 04:18:45 PM
The answer to your question is really simple, buy Shooting Chrony. Problem solved.
http://www.amazon.com/Shooting-Chrony-Beta-Chronograph-blue/dp/B001BR1RO4/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1435068720&sr=8-10&keywords=shooting+chrony (http://www.amazon.com/Shooting-Chrony-Beta-Chronograph-blue/dp/B001BR1RO4/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1435068720&sr=8-10&keywords=shooting+chrony)
Title: Re: estimating velocity
Post by: spider1960 on June 23, 2015, 08:30:09 PM
Try Airsoft gun shop also....they checked my grandson's airsoft gun.

Spider
Title: Re: estimating velocity
Post by: Trophyhunter49 on June 30, 2015, 06:46:38 AM
  Get on ebay , I found my chrony on there for 40.00 !  :-*
Title: Re: estimating velocity
Post by: mudduck48 on June 30, 2015, 03:57:00 PM
Here is one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shooting-Chrony-F1-chronograph-/331593515674?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d3483829a (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shooting-Chrony-F1-chronograph-/331593515674?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d3483829a)
And another one.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chrony-Chronograph-Mdl-F-Green-arrow-paintball-shooting-Free-GUNS-Illustrated-/221807022060?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33a4ba8fec (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chrony-Chronograph-Mdl-F-Green-arrow-paintball-shooting-Free-GUNS-Illustrated-/221807022060?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33a4ba8fec)
And another.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-CHRONY-BULLET-SPEED-CHRONOGRAPH-METER-HUNTING-BALLISTICTS-GUN-SMITH-/371365108784?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item567715dc30 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-CHRONY-BULLET-SPEED-CHRONOGRAPH-METER-HUNTING-BALLISTICTS-GUN-SMITH-/371365108784?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item567715dc30)
Here is the killer deal.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chrony-Beta-Master-Chronograph-With-Ballastic-Printer-/131543868370?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1ea0a023d2 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chrony-Beta-Master-Chronograph-With-Ballastic-Printer-/131543868370?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1ea0a023d2)
Title: Re: estimating velocity
Post by: Bud on June 30, 2015, 04:40:49 PM
Mudduck48 Thank you, I think, Damn the more I read this forum the more money I spend. I guess I'm an airgunaholic. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: estimating velocity
Post by: mudduck48 on June 30, 2015, 05:54:03 PM
Congratulations, the bug has bit! ;D ;D
Title: Re: estimating velocity
Post by: Trophyhunter49 on June 30, 2015, 10:46:22 PM
Quote from: mudduck48 on June 30, 2015, 05:54:03 PM
Congratulations, the bug has bit! ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: estimating velocity
Post by: targettgii on July 03, 2015, 06:36:32 AM
YUP :) :) :)