OK, I took that other rear sight off and put a Williams sight on that I had. Took the front sight off and looked at it, it looked OK. Taped the front sight back on, looked through the rear sight and the front sight was canted to the left. Reached up and could turn the front sight to straighten it up. How can I keep this front sight from moving? IMO, there is no need to try to sight this thing in, with the front sight loose. Any ideas? ???
You sure you have that front site tapped on all the way? It was solid before it left. At any rate, I have a box almost ready for you. Still looking for the manual, which I know is here somewhere! I will put a Disco front site in there as well as the original plastic breech, rear site and bolt. The bolt is actually pretty good. Brass and long brass handle. I like it anyway and almost kept it ;) ........ but I know that you like to have all the stock stuff even when you mod. Am I right? I do have a stock front site as well, but it has seen better days. I'll throw it in there too.
Rich
A Disco front sight works very well on a 2260. That said, the Disco rear sight works well also. ;)
Quote from: mudduck48 on August 05, 2015, 09:50:34 PM
OK, I took that other rear sight off and put a Williams sight on that I had. Took the front sight off and looked at it, it looked OK. Taped the front sight back on, looked through the rear sight and the front sight was canted to the left. Reached up and could turn the front sight to straighten it up. How can I keep this front sight from moving? IMO, there is no need to try to sight this thing in, with the front sight loose. Any ideas? ???
A few drops of super glue!!
OK, I have been working on the sights on this rifle and I just about got it. I put my Williams sight on at the end of the steel breech and it was liking looking through a basket ball hoop. Put a grub screw in the front sight to keep it from moving, then moved the rear sight to the front of the breech. Not bad. Getting closer to getting this thing to working right. Going to try one more thing before I order some more parts. :-* :-*
Nice shooting Duck. :-* :-* :-*
Lookin good ... :-*
Shot some more yesterday after noon. I think I have it as good as its going to get with what I have. Put my new Williams square notch sight blade on, blacked out the fiber optic front sight and went to work. Looks like I might have it now. :-*
The set screw was a great idea. I usually just use a dab or silicone seal and that fills the gap and usually stays on for a few removals. The other day I was in a hurry to put a 2240 sight on a 1377 barrel and I wrapped the barrel end with teflon tape and that kept the sight from blowing off. If a person has the tools and the time the set screw seems like a very nice fix. 8)
Nice shootin Duck.
I had an issue once .... gave it a shot with the heat gun ,,,, worked well ...
Bill K, I have been trying to figure out how to mount the Disco rear sight to the 22xx action (either plastic or metal) and can only figure putting it on the Williams base shown above. Do you have another method? 8)
Nice shooting Duckster!!! Disco front site will be in the mail on Monday. Never did get into town this weekend :-(
Quote from: Poorman Plinker on August 22, 2015, 06:49:09 PM
Bill K, I have been trying to figure out how to mount the Disco rear sight to the 22xx action (either plastic or metal) and can only figure putting it on the Williams base shown above. Do you have another method? 8)
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p212/wwk1a/2260/ad0d5065-603d-4ec8-b68e-2a8bb417b678.jpg)
I didn't put a divot in the barrel so I had to shorter the set screws that hold the sight base to the barrel. The sight blades you got will fit in place of the sight that comes with the rear sight (1761-026). You will also need the barrel sleeve (1761-013). I would also order the set screws unless your hdwr store has 6-40 set screws.
The rear sight is similar to the WDOS Dovetail Sight except it is made to go on the Barrel Sleeve. I comes with a fire sight also that you may like.
Here is a better pic of the sight. I cut the sleeve down so it would fit closer to the breech on this build for my son.
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p212/wwk1a/100_07411.jpg)
Thanks for the help BillK :-* I have the whole sight assembly and the 6-40 screw. I did not think to grab the barrel sleeve because it would have been a bit invasive.(the sights came off a buddy's gun in exchange for mounting a scope) Perhaps I will put that on my next Crosman order and then I can use the whole sight. For now, as you say, I have the fire sight mounted on the Williams base. 8)
I have also mounted them to pistol breeches.
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p212/wwk1a/1377/100_06071.jpg)
:-* Mr. K, In that vane I was considering drilling out the 6-40 hole and using a longer 8-32 action/breech screw to mount the sight. I noticed you used 2 screws to stop the mount from swiveling and I may have to do that or "jam" it into the slot. It might lock up on the plastic action, but is a bit wide. Thanks for the food for thought. 8)
I felt that I could use one screw on a plastic breech because I could make an indent in the breech for the elevation screw that would keep the sight mount from moving side to side. Also I have a nut on the screw that goes through the breech so it can be tightened down with not worry of striping.
You want to make the sight mount as stable as possible since there is L-R side to side adjustments for the sight. (keep the mount stable & move the sight)
I have no complaints and would change nothing on either mount.
As you can see on the 2 screw mount I couldn't get the screws in the exact center of the breech/mount. Since the mount allows the sight to be moved L&R & U&D the mounting misalignment is cosmetic & does not effect the accuracy of the sight.
Yes....I wish I could drill holes in a straight line, but I can' ???t.
By the way.....You can call me "Bill".
;D Thanks Bill,
I too have a hard time lining things up with my drill press vise and my cordless hand drill. You have some great ideas here and I will be using the discovery mount. I intend to cantalever it over the back of the action on a "target" pistol. 8)
As you will see when you get a mount you need the mount to be over some surface to be able to use the elevation screw.
The elevation screw is the set screw located just in front of the sight. I made indentations in the breech for the elevation set screw which also helps eliminating the side to side movement of the mount.
Thanks Bill :-* ,
I really appreciate all your help on this as you are saving me a lot of trial and error... especially the error ;)
I will take a very close look before I start drilling now that I know what to look for. 8)
Well after 7 carts,245 pellets, 3 front sight changes, 3 rear sight changes, I finally figured out what to do to my 2260 to get sighted in.The barrel needs to be turned to the right just a bit. I need to loosen the set screws, the breech screw and the rear breech screw and turn the barrel to the right just a bit.The barrel is in crooked. The first target shows, just putting on the Diso front sight and then moving it. The last target show the potential of the rifle. 3 shots in one hole. TO BE CONTINUED. :-* :-*
Wow Mudducker... that is something about the barrel. I will surely consider that when I am having shot stringing problems. 8)
:-* Way to go Ducky !! I never would have thought of doin that!! :-*
I tried to loosen up all of the screws to move the barrel and it did not work. This thing is getting perplexing. Now, the next thing is take the top off the rifle. Look to see if the tranferport is lined up with the breech. If push comes to shove, I'll put the plastic breech back on and see what that will do. Hay, they say, just put a scope on it. I'm shooting 5M or 20ft in my garage. I don't want a scope. :-\
That was one of the best shooting rifles I have owned. Offer still stands to send it back for a refund :-*
Rich
Nope, ain't going to. I'm not through with this thing. I'm determined to figure out why the front sight is canted to the right and the rear sight is off to the left. The next thing I'm going to do is take the top of the gun off. breech, barrel and the barrel band. And try to figure out what is wrong with thing. I'm starting to think that the screw holes,in the tube, for the breech are off center. More to come. :P
I'm starting to think that the screw holes,in the tube, for the breech are off center. More to come. :P
[/quote] I have seen that before in some of Crosman's guns ! Just go ahead and put a scope on it!! ;)
Yep, I could just put a scope on it, but that would require throwing more money at it. I shoot 5m and 20ft in my garage. The Hammers scope is the only one that I have found that will shoot that close. There is another $60. I have about $190 so far in this project, and I am going to try to fix it with what I have. If I can't, it is going in the closet with the rest of my paper weights. :P
If you are getting a string like that a 5 m there is something seriously off center. :o Of course you tried changing pellets and inspected the muzzle crown!!! I know what you mean that you have a cant in the action/breech. Almost all my guns do the same thing and I just live with it. I have not figured out get the action to sit verticle on the receiver tube and look forward to reading about your solution. 8)
All right boys and girls, I finally got around to taking the barrel and breech off my 2260. I left the set screw tight in the breech. I found that the transfer port IS lined up with the breech like it is supposed to be. Then I put the front sight back on right dead center of the flat on the barrel. It is hard to see in my pictures, but the front sight is leaning quite a bit to the left. This is telling me that my problem is with the barrel. Now what do I do? I'm thinking of taking a file and file the flat to where the sight will line up with the rear sight. Any other ideas? ??? ???
You can't just rotate the sight on the end of the barrel? Is that a Disco sight?
Duck I have faken a file and fix that problem before
Well, just for the fun of it, I put the stock breech back on. Left the Disco front sight on and tried it. The first target is the Disco sight. I took it off and put the FO front sight back on. I wound up with the rear sight blade all the way up and it was still shooting low. This thing is driving me nuts. I am going to file the flat on the barrel and put the steel breech back on, with the Disco front sight. Sight it back in and I think it is heading for the closet. :P :P
??? Put you a scope onit !! :-*
I wound up with the rear sight blade all the way up and it was still shooting low.
? file the slot in the rear sight so it will adjust taller ?
Quote from: mudduck48 on September 18, 2015, 06:05:44 PM
Well, just for the fun of it, I put the stock breech back on. Left the Disco front sight on and tried it. The first target is the Disco sight. I took it off and put the FO front sight back on. I wound up with the rear sight blade all the way up and it was still shooting low. This thing is driving me nuts. I am going to file the flat on the barrel and put the steel breech back on, with the Disco front sight. Sight it back in and I think it is heading for the closet. :P :P
Don't put it in the CLOSET , send it to me to play with !! :)
10 carts and 350 pellets later, I GOT IT!! I took the thing apart again to put the steel breech back on. While I had the barrel out I took into the house and rolled it on out granite counter top and guess what? The barrel is bent. But, who has ever seen a straight Crosman barrel? Filed the flat a little, put it back together and tried to sight it in. I know it likes the Hobby pellets, so that is what I used. Don't know what exactly what happened, but it works now. :-\ :-\ :-* :-*
:-* Good deal there Mr. Duck ! :)
"Oh MY..."
Congrats! Glad you finally got that wily 2260 tamed. :-*
Too nice of a gun for the closet.
I stuffed another cart in her this after noon and grabbed me a beer. Started shooting the Hobby pellets first. She likes the Hobby pellets. Then I gave her the RWS misterkruglin pellets. She really liked them. So, after that, I gave her a name, "HIGH DOLLAR", why? because she likes the high dollar pellets. The targets are me sitting on my stool, 20ft from the target. She is good to go now. Now I can work on the Daisy 850 and get it working. :-* :-*
Nice!