Crosman Air Pistol Owners Forum

Crosman air pistol - General => Crosman air pistol - General discussion => Topic started by: airmec on May 23, 2016, 11:37:46 PM

Title: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: airmec on May 23, 2016, 11:37:46 PM
Hey guys!

Pardon my ignorance regarding some US suppliers, but I just saw that Mellonair is offering SS flow through bolts for 13xx and 22xx airguns:

http://mellonair.myfreesites.net/177-22-bolts (http://mellonair.myfreesites.net/177-22-bolts)

I really wasn't aware of those :-[ . Seems to be a real nice product, at a real good price (18$). Peoples here on the forum made really nice comments on the bolts I recently made (big thanks again!), and also asked if I was to make some more. I sure would, but Mellonair being in the States and me in Canada, and considering shipping costs and custom, and delivery time, wouldn't it be better if you bought your bolts from that guy? (shipping cost is a flat 3$ USPS from him). Not that I don't want to work, at all, but I'm not sure I could be able to offer as good a deal as Mr. Mellon. For everyone's best interest, you may be better off buying from him. However, I WILL make a small batch of bolts and handles (still have some bronze and SS  ;) ).

I don't want to offend anybody, I will not refuse to do custom work, but I just wanted to let you know about that. A few days ago, I got infos on shipping to Colorado, which was 8.36$ in CDN funds (regular post) for a hollow probe bolt, and I guess at least 2-3 weeks delivery time. And the big knob bolt I made for my CDN fellow was priced at 25$ CDN.

Please feel free to comment, either in this thread or by PM.  Administrator/moderator comments very welcome.

Greetings to all!   
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: Brutuz on May 23, 2016, 11:55:29 PM
And Gmac makes them in the UK, there's no copyright nor trade restriction on hollow probes, so glad it's a free world and no commercial restriction on this forum  :)
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: airmec on May 24, 2016, 12:02:21 AM
Thanks for the comment, Brutuz   :) . It's just that I taught it would be cheaper and faster for a person in the US to order from a US supplier. 
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: 1377x on May 24, 2016, 12:04:43 AM
Customs paperwork is the easy part, when I was in shipping I was told to be as vague as possible on  the paperwork. Believe it or not the more thorough you are may cause a problem. If I were to ship  a stainless steel part out of country, I would put simply stainless steel no more no less. Ask anyone here that I have shipped to out of the US if they ever had an issue getting their package. Another thing is priority and express mailing is a waste of funds, regular mail gets there just as fast at a fraction of the cost. The only benefit of express mail is a tracking number and insurance, but is that really worth $30? With this part. The wait is the killer as well as the cost of shipping.
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: airmec on May 24, 2016, 12:18:08 AM
Thanks for those infos, 1377x :) . As a complement to my first post, here are the rates for shipping a bolt to CO (in CDN $):
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: quickster47 † on May 24, 2016, 12:19:41 AM
airmec I still think you have a viable market for your left hand cocking flow thru bolts as there is no one I know of that offers a bolt like this.

So think about it and if you need a first custom order you can consider me that person.  I will take one left hand cocking flow-thru bolt.  :-*

Carl
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: airmec on May 24, 2016, 12:22:59 AM
Thanks Carl :) :) :) . Order taken :-* . Have a preference for the knob style?
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: quickster47 † on May 24, 2016, 12:28:59 AM
Quote from: airmec on May 24, 2016, 12:22:59 AM
Thanks Carl :) :) :) . Order taken :-* . Have a preference for the knob style?

I think one like you did for your original probe would be just fine.

Carl
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: 1377x on May 24, 2016, 12:32:09 AM
Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: airmec on May 24, 2016, 12:33:56 AM
You mean this one, Carl?
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: airmec on May 24, 2016, 12:35:03 AM
Quote from: 1377x on May 24, 2016, 12:32:09 AM
Thanks for sharing

My pleasure :)
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: 1377x on May 24, 2016, 12:44:40 AM
I like that handle! Sweet
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: quickster47 † on May 24, 2016, 01:05:09 AM
Quote from: airmec on May 24, 2016, 12:33:56 AM
You mean this one, Carl?

That be it.  I like that design.

Carl
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: airmec on May 24, 2016, 01:07:58 AM
Quote from: 1377x on May 24, 2016, 12:44:40 AM
I like that handle! Sweet

Thanks, airmec original design ;D . Find it a bit long though, I'll shorten it by about 1/4''.
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: quickster47 † on May 24, 2016, 01:09:17 AM
Quote from: airmec on May 24, 2016, 01:07:58 AM
Thanks, airmec original design ;D . Find it a bit long though, I'll shorten it by about 1/4''.

Sounds good to me.   :-*

Carl
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: airmec on May 24, 2016, 02:43:49 AM
Quote from: quickster47 on May 24, 2016, 01:05:09 AM
That be it.  I like that design.

Carl

So be it :-* . Let the chips fly :) .
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: airmec on May 26, 2016, 01:32:45 AM
Here it comes, Carl :)  Yours is on the top left in the second pic.
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: mudduck48 on May 26, 2016, 02:39:11 AM
Those are killer bolts, nice work. 8)
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: CraigH on May 26, 2016, 02:57:40 AM
That is a super piece of work, François!       :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: quickster47 † on May 26, 2016, 04:08:37 AM
Wow!!!  :-* :-* :-* Those are all excellent and I am so excited to be getting one of them.  Thanks a thousand times over.

Carl
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: Tater on May 26, 2016, 06:33:35 AM
Great looking bolt!  :-*
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: targettgii on May 26, 2016, 07:31:25 AM
Airmec the flow through probe is nice but I am interested in the bolt handle.
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: airmec on May 26, 2016, 01:59:14 PM
Quote from: quickster47 on May 26, 2016, 04:08:37 AM
Wow!!!  :-* :-* :-* Those are all excellent and I am so excited to be getting one of them.  Thanks a thousand times over.

Carl

You're welcome :) :) :) . I made it a bit shorter and fatter, feels better in the hand ;) . Haven't had the opportunity to try it, as I don't have a left hand breech. I shall modify my left-over plastic breech, could be handy!

targettgii, I'll send you a PM ;) .
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: airmec on May 27, 2016, 02:56:29 AM
Quote from: targettgii on May 26, 2016, 07:31:25 AM
Airmec the flow through probe is nice but I am interested in the bolt handle.

Just made some more today :) . On the right, Carl's bolt. Will make some more in the coming days 8) .

And thanks for the great comments, guys :) :-*
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: mudduck48 on May 27, 2016, 03:07:07 AM
That is some really nice work. :-*
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: airmec on May 27, 2016, 03:42:20 AM
Thanks Mudduck :)
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: quickster47 † on May 27, 2016, 03:57:57 AM
Is it difficult to work with the stainless?

Carl

BTW, great collection of bolt handles. That style might be my new most favorite.  :-* :-* :-*

Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: airmec on May 27, 2016, 04:32:45 AM
Quote from: quickster47 on May 27, 2016, 03:57:57 AM
Is it difficult to work with the stainless?

Carl

BTW, great collection of bolt handles. That style might be my new most favorite.  :-* :-* :-*

Thanks, Carl :)

I wouldn't say working with SS is hard, rather it's different than regular steel. I guess I can say you need a bit higher RPM and a bit slower feed rate than steel, a good amount of light cutting fluid and the tool bits makes a good difference too. I've found that 5% Cobalt HSS gives better quality cuts than carbide cutters. Also, you can re-sharpen HSS :) Working with my Bronze-AL. alloy is probably a bit harder, but then again, same working rules as SS, and good results ensue :)
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: quickster47 † on May 27, 2016, 05:09:01 AM
Quote from: airmec on May 27, 2016, 04:32:45 AM
Thanks, Carl :)

I wouldn't say working with SS is hard, rather it's different than regular steel. I guess I can say you need a bit higher RPM and a bit slower feed rate than steel, a good amount of light cutting fluid and the tool bits makes a good difference too. I've found that 5% Cobalt HSS gives better quality cuts than carbide cutters. Also, you can re-sharpen HSS :) Working with my Bronze-AL. alloy is probably a bit harder, but then again, same working rules as SS, and good results ensue :)

Thanks much.  Guess I'll be getting some SS stock and giving it a try.

Carl
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: WyoMan on May 28, 2016, 05:12:51 AM
Nice work airmec...tapers and radii are artisan work  :-*
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: airmec on May 28, 2016, 10:57:53 AM
Thanks Wyoman :) . I'll come up with a few new models real soon.
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: crossliner on May 29, 2016, 04:06:48 PM
Nice and clean  :-*
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: bgmcgee on May 29, 2016, 05:33:49 PM
If you happen to have an extra .177 left hand flow thru bolt let me know as I'm interested.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Flow through SS bolts
Post by: Crosshairs on May 30, 2016, 08:14:55 PM
I have a few hollow probes and think they do help just the haft that the pellet is getting the full punch.
             Mike