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Crosman air pistol - General => Crosman air pistol - General discussion => Topic started by: BillK on August 18, 2016, 01:16:18 AM

Title: I never stop learning or making mistakes.....
Post by: BillK on August 18, 2016, 01:16:18 AM
I have had a habit of leaning my thumb on the barrel of a gun while shooting off a rest.  I especially do that when shooting off a bag, compressing the bag a bit with my thumb on the barrel, to get the crosshairs "just right".  This has worked for me for years.
Then I got a 1720T and a new rest. (floated barrel & solid rest)
So I did the same things with a MTM K-Zone rest and a 1720T.  My shots were very close but not like a LW barrel and a solid rest should be.  Especially concerning was that they were not consistent.
Having bought the gun "used" I figured that the barrel was poor and that was why the gun was sold.  So I bought a new barrel from Crosman, installed it and SOB it was doing the same thing.  WTF
After many shots and many different pellets it finally dawned on me that when I used my thumb on the barrel the POE changed while the POA was the same.
Unsupported/ floated  barrels DO NOT like to have a thumb adjusting the gun at all.   The barrel will flex and the POE will change.  This never happened with guns with barrel bands.
Only cost me $70 to learn this lesson.   Hope this helps someone else.....
Title: Re: I never stop learning or making mistakes.....
Post by: WyoMan on August 20, 2016, 03:37:11 AM
Nor do I... thanks for sharing  :-*
Bill, if you ever want to re-purpose that extra 1720 barrel (for a 17xx or 1377) send me a PM or email. Simple job... cut off the leade-in / port, and re-port and taper.
Title: Re: I never stop learning or making mistakes.....
Post by: mudduck48 on August 20, 2016, 04:26:52 AM
Sounds like a good lesson learned. 8)
Title: Re: I never stop learning or making mistakes.....
Post by: agninja on August 20, 2016, 05:52:49 AM
You didn't waste the money, you just paid to learn information. That's how I look at it. If you hadn't paid then you would've never known for sure what the issue actually was.
Title: Re: I never stop learning or making mistakes.....
Post by: Tater on August 20, 2016, 07:25:01 AM
Sorry it happened Bill, but thinks for sharing some good info.
Title: Re: I never stop learning or making mistakes.....
Post by: BillK on August 22, 2016, 04:13:44 AM
Quote from: WyoMan on August 20, 2016, 03:37:11 AM
Nor do I... thanks for sharing  :-*
Bill, if you ever want to re-purpose that extra 1720 barrel (for a 17xx or 1377) send me a PM or email. Simple job... cut off the leade-in / port, and re-port and taper.
That's about the best thing that happened is that I have a 12" LW barrel.  The lead will need a little taper but the Transfer Port lines up fine.
Now, what to put it on????
Title: Re: I never stop learning or making mistakes.....
Post by: Redleg on August 22, 2016, 11:09:27 PM
A former supervisor once told me that "Lessons cost varying amounts".  He was so right!
Title: Re: I never stop learning or making mistakes.....
Post by: KevinP on August 22, 2016, 11:31:25 PM
Quote from: Redleg on August 22, 2016, 11:09:27 PM
A former supervisor once told me that "Lessons cost varying amounts".  He was so right!

So true is that  ...   :-*
Title: Re: I never stop learning or making mistakes.....
Post by: WyoMan on August 23, 2016, 02:48:16 AM
Quote from: BillK on August 22, 2016, 04:13:44 AM
That's about the best thing that happened is that I have a 12" LW barrel.  The lead will need a little taper but the Transfer Port lines up fine.
Now, what to put it on????
That's great news, Bill.... You may need to drill / ream the barrel port to .140", or a bit more for a Co2 build.
Let me know if you need one of these:
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh508/WyoMan/2550%20Gas%20Gun/TP_zpsuhd1xdyd.jpg) (http://s1249.photobucket.com/user/WyoMan/media/2550%20Gas%20Gun/TP_zpsuhd1xdyd.jpg.html)
It's .250" o.d. and will fit the barrel port C-B

Can't help you with "what to put in on", but you could always get another gun... to make the decision easier  ??? :D