Crosman has some great parts that can be added to their guns and one of my favorite parts is their 1399 stock. It is inexpensive, about $25 even from Pyramyd Air, and fits a variety of the Crosman guns because of their universal trigger frame. The 1399 stock fits model 1377, the 22XX series of guns, and discontinued models 105, 111, 130, 150, 151, 1300, 1322, and SSP250.
It is a well made synthetic stock that is strong and fits the Crosman pistols very well. The ease of attachment to the pistols provides solid support for shooting. And because it easily attaches/detaches with only a common flat blade screwdriver you can quickly convert from pistol to rifle and back. It adds stability to the gun and that increased stability gives greater accuracy. The stability provided by the addition of the stock is much better than that of a two-handed hold while bracing against a solid structure for precision shooting. Makes a good gun even better. Plus it makes the gun look really cool too!
However, and don't you just hate that part, what I dislike about the Crosman 1399 stock is the way your cheek fits against the upper section of the stock or what is commonly called the comb. And actually it doesn't even touch it in most cases. Even for a guy like me with long arms the length of pull (LoP) is not that bad. But you can never get a good cheek weld in the stock form. Hmm, bad play on words there. Getting a good cheek weld with your eye/scope right where they should be makes for a much more comfortable and productive shooting session whether punching paper, plinking or taking out some pesky varmints.
To improve the stock for my needs I started scouring the Internet for a cheek rest that could easily be added/adopted to the 1399 stock. Mind you finding something that would work on this stock was not an easy task but finally I stumbled on a company called Advanced Technology Inc. and their line of SKS products and their appropriately named product the SKS Cheek Rest. It wasnââ,¬â,,¢t perfect but it was as close as I was going to get I decided. And the best part about the piece is that it is also inexpensive, about $9.
http://www.parts4sks.com/sks_accessories/category/SKS_cheek_rest.html (http://www.parts4sks.com/sks_accessories/category/SKS_cheek_rest.html)
In order for the SKS cheek rest to fit the contour of the 1399 stock I cut a piece of wood and grooved one edge. I then sealed the wood with Cyanoacrylate or Superglue and painted it black. The piece of wood fits up in the cheek rest and keeps it aligned on the 1399 stock when tightened using the cheek rest retaining screw.
To make the cheek rest more comfortable and give it that final personal fit touch I used a piece of pipe insulation cut to length and secured to the cheek rest with a piece of thin double sided tape.
The pictures included below should give you a pretty good idea about how it all fits together. And Iââ,¬â,,¢m always open to questions.
So there you have it, an easy mod to a good product that makes it better.
Carl
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Great find Carl!
I've got the same problem with my SSP+1399 combination but never really came up with a solution. I thought about the pipe insulation fix but I still need to buy some..
Shipping the cheek rest to Europe is kinda expensive so that leaves me no choice but to find a European dealer. Is it all plastic by the way?
Very nice ! Thanks for sharing that with us Carl, I need to remember this when I mount my scope up and see how it fits me.
Dan
Nice wirte up Carl!
For our Canadian friends, it seems you can get a very good price here;
http://www.dlairgun.com/Crosman-Accessories.html (http://www.dlairgun.com/Crosman-Accessories.html)
Scroll down a bit.
Rich
Or, you can just do this.
DAMMITMAN !!!!! That is just TOOOOOOOOO cool..Thaks for that link..that's an outstanding mod :-*
Quote from: Dutch Caliber on January 01, 2011, 10:14:47 PM
Is it all plastic by the way?
Yes it is all plastic, looks to be material quite similar to the 1399 stock. Only items not plastic are the wood and pipe insulation.
Carl
When I first saw your mod to the stock I thought it was a pellet pouch. Sorry. I thought, what the hay is that? I had just gotten my stock and was sighting in a RDS when I noticed I was bumping my cheek against the stock; I saw your pic in the gallery and I came up with my own mod, the kerchief! NOw if only I can figure out a way to stuff some pellets in there. LOL NIce mod and thanks for giving me an idea for my next project.
62Falcon,
Here is what I did for 1399 foam stock pellet holder.
attach the foam to your stock and drill by hand some small holes just large/deep enough to get the pellet to stay in the foam.
My holes are one the right hand side of the stock because I am right handed and when it doesn't interfere with shooting the gun.
Part 2 of the up grade will be to order the SKS check piece and re-due the foam to have a cleaner look to it.
I will drill the holes for the pellets in straight line next time too. lol
sweet!
great idea!
Too cool - you can always count on Quickster to come up with something new and improved :-*
Great ideas ,what size drill bit did you use for the pellet holes if they are .177?
Drill for 22. cal 3/16" to .199 dia or #7.. 0.199 maybe a little lose
Drill for 177 cal 0.140 dia
any shorten their stocks???
i hear complaints about the lop
any adjustibles made?
I shortened a 1399 stock when I was working on my 1740 FT gun. I cut the stock and then made a jig to keep the two pieces parallel while I ground them to my desired length.
Here's a couple of pictures so you can see what I did. I have more if you need to see them.
Carl
I got my stock fixed with some of the mods.
Quote from: quickster47 on March 04, 2012, 02:04:36 AM
I shortened a 1399 stock when I was working on my 1740 FT gun. I cut the stock and the make a jig to keep the two pieces parallel while I ground them to my desired length.
Here's a couple of pictures so you can see what I did. I have more if you need to see them.
Carl
nice work quick!
did it start an as stock or 1399?
when i get a chance i am going to shorten mine
now that i know the center is solid or did you have to fill it? ???
The center of the stocks I shortened were 99% solid. The first one I drilled and tapped and installed metal threaded inserts. The next one I just drilled and tapped and had no problems with the material holding the threads.
Carl
thanks!
Not a problem. Glad to help.
Carl
quickster47,
How much did you shorten your stock overall?
mcc1961
Sweet little pellet holder you have their, pretty cool
Quote from: screwwork on March 04, 2012, 03:39:39 AM
quickster47,
How much did you shorten your stock overall?
Probably 1/2" when all was said and done. The Morgan adjustable butt pad added a little of the cut off length back in.
Carl
Cool thanks,
Randy
Quote from: mcc1961 on March 04, 2012, 02:44:05 AM
I got my stock fixed with some of the mods.
Did you fix the cheek-rest to the rifle with the wooden mod the OP proposed, or some other way?
I just cut some pieces of the foam pipe insulation and made spacers out of them.Not as solid as wood but it works.
Randy,
I cut mine in a miterbox just ahead of the butt and took 2" out of it (at 90 degrees from the top or upper leg of the stock). Then I held the upper leg of the stock and the heel of the butt back together and in line as best as I could and drilled a pilot hole through the butt and put a 2" Deck screw in it. Then I aligned the toe with the lower leg of the stock (it took a little bending) and drilled it for another deck screw. Then, I loosened the screws a bit to put some Gorilla Super glue in the joints, tightened the screws back up, and wiped off the excess glue.
Those legs get thicker as they go forward so I had to do some sanding on them to get them even on one side. Actually, one side on the top leg and other side on the bottom leg due to the way I held them in alignment. I'm planning on trying some light sandblasting to even up the look where I sanded on it.
LOP is now 13.5 but it brought my eye right up to the 3" eye relief for the Bug Buster. 1" would probably be enough for most folks but I have a shoulder problem from a couple of bicycle wrecks and a broken right collarbone.
I have a Tippman 98 collapsible stock on another gun.
Cheers,
Jerry
I sanded my stock a little bit so the paint would stick better and then sprayed with truck bed coating.I also painted the forearm on my 1377 with it also.You can really get a firm grip on it with the Rust-oleum $8 a can at WW.
I have one set of 1389 forearm and stock painted with Rust-Oleum Truck Bed coating and I like it. However, I want this one to stay the original green.
Cheers,
Jerry
does this mean no more stretching the neck to get proper eye relief when using a leapers 3" eye relief scope??
The ATI cheek rest is an excellent idea for this rifle. This is especially true due to the need for high scope rings to allow room for loading the Crosman 22xx series pistols. A little research shows that the cheek rests are currently available from ATI. Interestingly, the space inside the cheek rest is designed to hold the SKS cleaning kit. Order placed. Thank you, everyone, for all of the great information posted here.
http://www.atigunstocks.com/accessories-and-parts/247-sks-cheekrest.html (http://www.atigunstocks.com/accessories-and-parts/247-sks-cheekrest.html)
JEBert,
that is really nice, my miter box is to small to make the cuts in...
I am looking at about 3" removed from the stock so I am not straining my neck old to see thru the Leaper scope to too. To be continued....
Randy
Come to think of it, I probably did use a 10" Delta miter-saw.
Cheers,
Jerry