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Title: Interesting 88gram tank stamping
Post by: arkmaker † on April 19, 2011, 02:45:10 PM
I stripped off the label of the 88 gram carts I bought from WalMart. These were not Crosman Air Source, but some off brand called Impact. Well at half the cost, I figured I had nothing to loose. Now I want to paint the tank black to match the rest of the gun.

What I found under the label was "CROSMAN" roll stamped into the tube. Makes me think it could be one of two things; Crosman makes an off brand for WalMart or 2) the off brand manufacturer has stamped the tube so they know what it is in inventory??

Has or Can anyone looked under an Air Source label to see if there is a stamp like this? It is followed by 2 sets of numbers which look to be the date: 01 11
Title: Re: Interesting 88gram tank stamping
Post by: Nate on April 19, 2011, 02:58:20 PM
that is very interesting, unfortunatly i cannot help you because i only buy the crosman brand 88gs
i wonder if some of the other brands like walther have the same thing.  ???
Title: Re: Interesting 88gram tank stamping
Post by: arkmaker † on April 19, 2011, 03:00:56 PM
Quote from: Nate on April 19, 2011, 02:58:20 PM
that is very interesting, unfortunatly i cannot help you because i only buy the crosman brand 88gs
i wonder if some of the other brands like walther have the same thing.  ???

That's what I was asking. Does the "Crosman brand" have the stamping??
Thanks,
Rich
Title: Re: Interesting 88gram tank stamping
Post by: woody67 on April 19, 2011, 03:13:28 PM
Will you be refilling them?

I'm only wondering because you are painting them.
Title: Re: Interesting 88gram tank stamping
Post by: arkmaker † on April 19, 2011, 04:05:31 PM
I am going to try to refill usig the adapter that Bentong turned me on to! I found the package that they came in. I think they are re-labeled AirSource carts. They are by Gameface Paintball and are located in Bloomfeild NY. That's where Crosman is, right??

Rich
Title: Re: Interesting 88gram tank stamping
Post by: Bentong on April 19, 2011, 04:12:14 PM
Quote from: arkmaker on April 19, 2011, 03:00:56 PM
That's what I was asking. Does the "Crosman brand" have the stamping??
Thanks,
Rich

Crosman is stamped "CROSMAN 12 09"
My black ones I got from ebay are 4 oz, .75" longer is stamped "USS.ORM-D"
Title: Re: Interesting 88gram tank stamping
Post by: woody67 on April 19, 2011, 04:17:27 PM
Yes, Crosman is in Bloomfield. Maybe they sell their products to other companies as well, so they can sell it under their name.

It makes sense, since Crosman isn't really into the "individual customer" business ---they have to make their money somewhere!

The refillable option for the 88gram is great. You don't have to waste your money on those stupid tanks, and you don't have to bulk up your gun too much with a huge tank...
Title: Re: Interesting 88gram tank stamping
Post by: arkmaker † on April 19, 2011, 04:29:15 PM
Quote from: Bentong on April 19, 2011, 04:12:14 PM
Crosman is stamped "CROSMAN 12 09"
My black ones I got from ebay are 4 oz, .75" longer is stamped "USS.ORM-D"

Thanks guys!
Alrighty then, mystery solved. I think we can assume that the Visual Impact 88 gram tanks are made by Crosman for paintballers and or Walmart. Could have been a way to justify making the tanks available to Walmart for less money without risking the high profile name of thier AirSource trademark tanks.

On another note, I will need to do a search for this 4oz tanks. Bigger, but not to big. I painted this one black, but I figure that it will chip easy!
I need to get a batch of stuff together for Powder Coating so I can justify the cost.
Title: Re: Interesting 88gram tank stamping
Post by: 1377x on April 19, 2011, 04:45:55 PM
QuoteI painted this one black, but I figure that it will chip easy!
use black primer,i find it very durable
Title: Re: Interesting 88gram tank stamping
Post by: quickster47 † on April 19, 2011, 04:56:19 PM
A while back I bought a couple, or maybe 10 is a better number, of the Walther 88g CO2 bottles.  Will look under the labels and see what I can find.  Could be interesting.  I will say this, I do find the CO2 in the Walther bottles to be much cleaner than what is in the AirSource bottles.  I know this by looking at the fittings when I change bottles.

Carl
Title: Re: Interesting 88gram tank stamping
Post by: 1377x on April 19, 2011, 05:01:04 PM
Quote from: quickster47 on April 19, 2011, 04:56:19 PM
A while back I bought a couple, or maybe 10 is a better number, of the Walther 88g CO2 bottles.  Will look under the labels and see what I can find.  Could be interesting.  I will say this, I do find the CO2 in the Walther bottles to be much cleaner than what is in the AirSource bottles.  I know this by looking at the fittings when I change bottles.

Carl

this isnt about co2.when i filled my gun from paintball shop air ,the gun wasnt as powerful it was with scuba shop air ??? ???
Title: Re: Interesting 88gram tank stamping
Post by: woody67 on April 19, 2011, 05:05:56 PM
Quote from: 1377x on April 19, 2011, 05:01:04 PM
this isnt about co2.when i filled my gun from paintball shop air ,the gun wasnt as powerful it was with scuba shop air ??? ???

That's the problem with the paintball shop guys --they're always cutting their product so they can sell more of it. Mixing all types of gasses in and what-not.

The scuba guys know what they're doing. They know that if they give you a quality product, you'll be coming back for more!

:P ;D hahahaha
Title: Re: Interesting 88gram tank stamping
Post by: arkmaker † on April 19, 2011, 06:52:50 PM
Co2 is Co2.....right?? Now, compressed air I can understand, but let's talk a bit more about the Co2 gas mixing. Never heard of such a thing. ???
Rich
Title: Re: Interesting 88gram tank stamping
Post by: Crosshairs on April 19, 2011, 07:04:39 PM
I just checked yes the crosman brand 88gr carts does have the same stamp.
                              Mike
Title: Re: Interesting 88gram tank stamping
Post by: woody67 on April 19, 2011, 07:24:02 PM
Quote from: arkmaker on April 19, 2011, 06:52:50 PM
Co2 is Co2.....right?? Now, compressed air I can understand, but let's talk a bit more about the Co2 gas mixing. Never heard of such a thing. ???
Rich

It was a joke ---- like other business entities, where they cut their 'product' so they have more to sell..... it was a joke about the scuba guys vs. the paintball guys. It was stupid. I apologize.
Title: Re: Interesting 88gram tank stamping
Post by: arkmaker † on April 19, 2011, 09:00:44 PM
I'm a little thick to catch on I guess  :P
Title: Re: Interesting 88gram tank stamping
Post by: NorthStaR on April 20, 2011, 05:11:33 PM
Quote from: woody67 on April 19, 2011, 05:05:56 PM
The scuba guys know what they're doing. They know that if they give you a quality product, you'll be coming back for more!
:P ;D hahahaha
Many divers go belly up from contaminated air fills. It also ruins the bottle cert and needs a seriously expensive service too.
Some of them won't be able to come back for more..... but I know you were only joking about!  ;) 
BTW I'm a certified Rescue Diver  :-*

Quote from: arkmaker on April 19, 2011, 04:29:15 PM
I painted this one black, but I figure that it will chip easy! I need to get a batch of stuff together for Powder Coating so I can justify the cost.
Theres a product sold for diving gear, specifically for coating lead weights for your belt but also sold for boats et cetera
called "Plastikote". You can buy tins of it or spray cans. With the tins you dip your product, repeating for extra coats.
Very long lasting and they do it in black. Might be worth a looksy?!

Funny thing is this site for the US market concentrates on cars n' stuff:
http://www.plastikote.com/index.jsp (http://www.plastikote.com/index.jsp)
Title: Re: Interesting 88gram tank stamping
Post by: woody67 on April 20, 2011, 05:36:35 PM
Quote from: NorthStaR on April 20, 2011, 05:11:33 PM
Many divers go belly up from contaminated air fills. It also ruins the bottle cert and needs a seriously expensive service too.
Some of them won't be able to come back for more..... but I know you were only joking about!  ;) 
BTW I'm a certified Rescue Diver  :-*


1.   That is awesome that you are a certified Rescue Diver.
2.   That is amazing that contaminated air fills happen. What a crappy way to go.


**Turns out those Scuba guys aren't the good ones. You need to get the mexican air for your tanks if you want the really good stuff!!   ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: Interesting 88gram tank stamping
Post by: tinker on April 23, 2011, 10:50:59 AM
I was wondering why not powder coat the empty 88 gram cylinder.  Loads of colors and textures to choose from to give more bling.  Also a bit more durable that paint.  I know a bunch more work to get it powder coated though.
Glen
Title: Re: Interesting 88gram tank stamping
Post by: arkmaker † on April 23, 2011, 04:16:47 PM
Powder Coating is the way to go, but I need a few more things to make it worth wild money wise. Then again, I have 2 88gram cart, a 9oz, a trigger frame that is screaming to be redone, an LDC. If I make a few more air strippers, I guess I will be about there and can justify the cost. My PC'r goes by the lot of same color. I'm thinking BLACK.
Rich