Sitting on my, 20ft, first is old Crosman pellets and 2nd is new Crosman premier HP
Nice!!
nice shooting!
sounds like the bug bit you
congrats!
Very much nice ... :-*
That was last night. I do not think I'll be shooting it tonight, I took the side cover off to smooth up the trigger and no one told me the dreaded little spring and ball falls out. And the dummies just put the big spring right on the sear. My old 1377 has a pin that hangs down that the spring rides on. This is going to be fun trying to get it all back together. I'll get it,but I do not think it will be today. lol
Nice shooting and congrats.
Mike
Nice shooting great gun.
I got it back together. yea!! The trigger is a little better, but it is still too heavy.
To get a nice trigger pull easy and cheap order these parts from Crosman. You will have the brass adjuster that comes on the Custom Shop guns ;)
NS1200-016 Spring
2300-038 Spring spacer
2300-039 Nut Spring
I'll have to remember this post (write it down LOL) when I start working on my 1322 and 2240. :)
chongman, Thank you for the info., but, I have been on Crosman's web site and I can not find anywhere where you can buy parts. Where is the magic link for Crosman parts? I'm just starting on this build. And, of course, I need all the help that I can get. You can see that I got a fairly decent gun. I just want to make it better. Thank you for your time. mudduck48
Don't mean to jump in but you more than likely have to call them and order.On that note does anyone know the part number for the short pistol breech and is it grooved for a scope.
thank you for jumping in. i was thinking about doing that. Get on their web site and call and tell whoever answers the phone to please tell me where to order parts from. good idea.
Call 1-800-724-7486 (or 1-800-7AIRGUN) and ask for "replacement parts".
Well, thank you very much. All I need now is some more part numbers, like the transfer port seal, the little ball and spring and the parts chrongman said. I'm sure I'll think of something else. Thanks again for the info.
They won't help you if you don't know the part numbers. So be sure to check out the exploded diagrams/parts lists available on the Crosman site.
http://www.crosman.com/cs/manuals/crosman-pistols (http://www.crosman.com/cs/manuals/crosman-pistols)
1322C safety spring - part # 1322-017
1322C safety ball - part # 105-039
Transfer port seal - part # 130-036
All found here:
http://www.crosman.com/pdf/manuals/1322%20EVP%20&%20PL4.pdf (http://www.crosman.com/pdf/manuals/1322%20EVP%20&%20PL4.pdf)
Quote from: mudduck48 on September 18, 2012, 10:10:11 PM
That was last night. I do not think I'll be shooting it tonight, I took the side cover off to smooth up the trigger and no one told me the dreaded little spring and ball falls out. And the dummies just put the big spring right on the sear. My old 1377 has a pin that hangs down that the spring rides on. This is going to be fun trying to get it all back together. I'll get it,but I do not think it will be today. lol
you mean to tell us you have not read any of the 100's of posts that talk about that dreaded little sping and ball for the safety
the sear spring is easy.when you get the frame back together you slide the sear spring over the pin and compress it so you can let it go up to the sear let it go it should be set.
the safety ball and spring is done after you get the frame together also.with the safety in place drop the ball down the slot,add a dab of grease to one end of the spring drop the geased end down the slot.if you ever have to take it apart again the ball and spring should stay together from the grease
a disposable lighter flint spring cut to size is a good replacement and there is a ball bearing that goes into some bike part the size is around the forum somewhere.some people use bb shots from shotgun shells as ball replacements also.the size is listed around here also
search from the index page here safety ball and spring a lot of posts should pop up.its one of the most talked about things around here
Quote from: Fronzdan on September 19, 2012, 06:30:45 AM
They won't help you if you don't know the part numbers. So be sure to check out the exploded diagrams/parts lists available on the Crosman site.
http://www.crosman.com/cs/manuals/crosman-pistols (http://www.crosman.com/cs/manuals/crosman-pistols)
+ 1 to that!
The Crosman folks are very helpful but... they cannot spend hours on the phone finding part numbers in diagrams for folks, that's why they need part numbers. You can imagine what a phone call would be like from other inexperienced non-hobbyists (not us of course)...
"I need the little curvy thing that hooks onto the pointed thing near the round thing on my 1377". When I need parts, I spend some time making a list by using the diagrams on the Crosman website and elsewhere. Even if I'm looking for 1377 parts, I'll also look at the 2240 diagrams or others because, their shipping cost is usually $4 for an envelope of parts that don't weigh much. It's a good time to lay in spares of o-rings and other little parts that you know you will need for all of your guns and.. many of the parts are common across several different guns.
Once you get a parts person on the phone, they will do a good job for you :-*
Quote from: 1377x on September 19, 2012, 08:39:57 AM
you mean to tell us you have not read any of the 100's of posts that talk about that dreaded little sping and ball for the safety
the sear spring is easy.when you get the frame back together you slide the sear spring over the pin and compress it so you can let it go up to the sear let it go it should be set.
the safety ball and spring is done after you get the frame together also.with the safety in place drop the ball down the slot,add a dab of grease to one end of the spring drop the geased end down the slot.if you ever have to take it apart again the ball and spring should stay together from the grease
a disposable lighter flint spring cut to size is a good replacement and there is a ball bearing that goes into some bike part the size is around the forum somewhere.some people use bb shots from shotgun shells as ball replacements also.the size is listed around here also
search from the index page here safety ball and spring a lot of posts should pop up.its one of the most talked about things around here
Yes, 1377x I have read about the safety spring and ball on the post, but it was all about taking the valve tube off not the side plate. Now I know. and I sorta did what you said with the grease. I got everything lined up where it needed to be, put grease on the ball, set the spring on it and slid the cover on and it works.
Congrats! Fine shooting, RC
This is at 10m, 33ft. 1993 Crosman pellets, standing, 4 beers. Could be better, but.
thats pretty good after 4 beers was they 3.2% beers? ;D
Nope. We do not have 3.2% beers here in Ca. These were Steel Kettle at about 5.1%. Cheap beer. Right now they are 2 for $10 at Fresh And Easy. With tax $12 for a case.
Quote from: mudduck48 on September 20, 2012, 04:36:24 AM
Nope. We do not have 3.2% beers here in Ca. These were Steel Kettle at about 5.1%. Cheap beer. Right now they are 2 for $10 at Fresh And Easy. With tax $12 for a case.
not bad!
thought you might be in utah ;D isnt the beer there 3.2%?
at 3.2% its more like shandy ;D
ped
or a "snakebite" eh what? :D ;D
not much new today, I went around town today looking for a new trigger spring. I wound up a our Ave. Hardware store. I bought 2 springs I thought might work. Got home put one in and it was a lot better. I decided to take the side plate off again and finish polishing up all of the surfaces. I almost joined the "lost ball" club. Took off the side cover, looked and everything stayed in place, then I heard a bink! The ball took off. I got lucky, I found it. Then when I was trying to put it back together, the safety spring went. I got an old Bic lighter and took the spring out. I happened to look down, and I found the spring. Not much new today, It does shoot better. Now I need the pellets I ordered to see how they work.
a little word of advise
if you take the gripframe of before you open up the side plate then the spring and ball wont be under pressure.at the least loosen one of the frames bolts to relieve pressure
hth
ED
Thanks Ed. I'll have to try that next time. I have that bit set from Harbor Freight like Mike uses in his disassembly video, with the square drive bit in it. I'll use that.
I recommend taking the trigger frame completely off while working on the trigger. When you first take it off, keep it UPRIGHT and pull the safety spring out and put a dab of grease on the ball end of it, put it back in and THEN lay the trigger frame down to work on it. That will keep the ball and spring in place while you are working on it. I ALWAYS take the frame off of the tube while working on the trigger to relieve pressure on the spring and ball and keep them from flying off into parts unknown.
Mods should make this a sticky. Anyone that reads this shouldn't have an excuse to loose the safety spring and ball.
While you are at it, put the OEM frame mount screws in your stash (don't toss them as spares are always handy) and install 8-32 Allen head socket screws when you put it back together.
FYI - I have replaced all of my trigger frame screws with 8-32 socket head Allen screws. You can get them in black or stainless steel (to match the rest of the screws and/or accessories on the specific gun) but I haven't found them in brass (brass is too soft anyway and would risk breaking them off in the gun, IMHO.) If you are working on a 13XX gun, the front screw length should be around 425 ~ .005" and the rear screw .267 ~ .005 long. I usually find them 3/8" and 1/2" and grind them to the length I want. If working on a 22XX the front screw can be around .290" long. If you order Don Cothran's SS screw set, they both (front & rear) come at .290". I didn't shorten the rear one and it does not seem to interfere with the hammer spring. I use 8-32 button head Allen screws for rear of Crosman Steel breech 0.685 ~ .005" long and button head screw is warranted if wishing it to not protrude above the upper breech surface (so as to stay out of the way of rear sight or scope rings.)
Cheers,
making a sticky is like writing a book the info should be in order and clearly written for all to understand
if someone wants take up that task it is possible to make it into a sticky
Anyone wanting to do that is welcome to use any of my typing/wording. I re-typed it three times trying to make it clear and complete.
I just thought that making it a sticky would get more folks to read it and not loose the safety spring and ball. Such a simple solution... but I guess most have already taken it apart before reading much on this forum. I know I did and lost the ball too.
Cheers,
Thank you all for the great info. I try to read the posts looking for information, but with 80903posts on 6396 topics from 1073 members, it just takes time. A person could write a book with all the info. on this forum. Thanks again.
I like my new 1322. 20ft sitting on my stool at my work bench. In the garage. 5 shots.
I like my new 1322. I wanted this gun not for the shooting, but for the exercise. I haven't worked in over 3 years and I'm getting a little flabby. I thought if I had this it would help me get stronger. I try to shoot at least 15 shots a night. That is 150 pumps. That is a work out for the upper body.