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Title: HELP with 1377
Post by: Trophyhunter49 on October 05, 2012, 11:46:52 PM
I have been workin on my sons 1377. When you shoot it you can feel air that come from under the breech. I put in a new breech seal and a new bolt seal and still feel air!! Any ideas!!! ???
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: Crosshairs on October 06, 2012, 01:42:46 AM
Make sure your barrel and valve is lined up with the breech seal also did you put the breech screw back in and is it tight. sometimes the barrel will twist and not line up right.
                 Mike
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: breakfastchef on October 06, 2012, 02:03:07 AM
Mike is right. Check that the transfer tube is fitting into the barrel port. I ususally center the barrel port on the breech and lightly snug the barrel set screw. Just as I marry the breech to the pump tube, I will loosenn the set screw so I can wiggle the assembly together. Also, remember that the shorter part of the transfer tube fits into the valve exhaust port.
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: Trophyhunter49 on October 06, 2012, 02:22:21 AM
I have done all of that. I do'nt know what else to do. That's why I am beging 4 help.
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: 1377x on October 06, 2012, 03:06:36 AM
which variant is it?
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: breakfastchef on October 06, 2012, 03:31:47 AM
Does the valve build pressure and hold air?
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: Trophyhunter49 on October 06, 2012, 04:36:14 AM
It builds persure and holds air. iT JUST BLOWS AIR WHEN YOU SHOOT IT? I THINK IT IS MAYBE A PHASE 3  ???
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: cmj21973 on October 06, 2012, 08:48:51 AM
What's the first four digits of serieal number?

Find an adjustable flame; disposable lighter. Unscrew the adjustable flame valve and remove the o-ring. Use this o-ring as a top seal on the transfer sleeve.

http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,721.msg57372.html#msg57372 (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,721.msg57372.html#msg57372)

It's the o-ring on the left.
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: Tater on October 06, 2012, 09:20:46 AM
Thanks CMJ, that's a great thread.
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: Trophyhunter49 on October 06, 2012, 01:30:04 PM
Thanks  , I will try that today :-* :-*
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: Trophyhunter49 on October 06, 2012, 08:36:46 PM
CMJ, Thanks for the info. It worked like a charm  ;D  :) No more air leaking when it shoots :-* Thanks again for all the help :-* :)
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: Trophyhunter49 on October 06, 2012, 11:09:08 PM
 :) This is the greatest airgun site in the world :-* The people on the site are the GREATEST :)  Everyone as been so helpful, and want to say Thanks  :-* 
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: Tater on October 07, 2012, 09:16:20 AM
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on October 06, 2012, 11:09:08 PM
:) This is the greatest airgun site in the world :-* The people on the site are the GREATEST :)  Everyone as been so helpful, and want to say Thanks  :-*

Well said, I agree.    :-*
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: Crosshairs on October 07, 2012, 01:40:34 PM
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on October 06, 2012, 11:09:08 PM
:) This is the greatest airgun site in the world :-* The people on the site are the GREATEST :)  Everyone as been so helpful, and want to say Thanks  :-* 
x1
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: crossliner on October 07, 2012, 04:11:25 PM
Quote from: cmj21973 on October 06, 2012, 08:48:51 AM
What's the first four digits of serieal number?

Find an adjustable flame; disposable lighter. Unscrew the adjustable flame valve and remove the o-ring. Use this o-ring as a top seal on the transfer sleeve.

http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,721.msg57372.html#msg57372 (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,721.msg57372.html#msg57372)

It's the o-ring on the left.

Imitated it myself and it does work  :-*
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: 1377x on October 07, 2012, 05:44:31 PM
so does that mean a bic lighter wont have that o-ring? the bics i get here arent adjustable
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: Tater on October 07, 2012, 06:06:13 PM
Quote from: 1377x on October 07, 2012, 05:44:31 PM
so does that mean a bic lighter wont have that o-ring? the bics i get here arent adjustable

Bics are too nice to destroy anyways. I'm buying one of the clear cheapies.
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: 1377x on October 07, 2012, 06:10:27 PM
not when they are empty
the flint spring in a big is a lot better than the spring from a cheapo
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: Tater on October 07, 2012, 08:15:47 PM
Goodpoint. I just threw out a bic a few days ago too.   >:(
Are the o-rings different in bics compared to cheapies?
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: 1377x on October 08, 2012, 02:12:32 AM
same thing i want to know i have a spent bic gotta go to the dollar store and get a 7pack of cheapos
i should start selling o-ring top seals.at 15 cents a lighter $2 a top seal delivered should sell with a safetu spring included ;)
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: Tater on October 08, 2012, 03:37:39 AM
Quote from: 1377x on October 08, 2012, 02:12:32 AM
same thing i want to know i have a spent bic gotta go to the dollar store and get a 7pack of cheapos
i should start selling o-ring top seals.at 15 cents a lighter $2 a top seal delivered should sell with a safetu spring included ;)

There ya go.   :-*
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: JEBert on October 08, 2012, 08:39:33 AM
Some Bics are adjustable and others aren't.  I have only found O-rings in the adjustable lighters but most of the cheapo lighters I have found are adjustable.
Cheers,
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: cmj21973 on October 10, 2012, 08:13:32 AM
Quote from: 1377x on October 07, 2012, 05:44:31 PM
so does that mean a bic lighter wont have that o-ring? the bics i get here arent adjustable

Only the adjustable flame lighters  have the o-ring.
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: crossliner on October 10, 2012, 03:17:00 PM
Everytime I see thrown disposable lighters I pick them up take them apart for their innards. The cheapo ones are very cheap here at P5.00 / $0.11

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This rubber thing looking like a screw is also from a disposable lighter..This simple mod has eliminated the slack on my 3 Crosmans so now they are a true single stage trigger..If you would notice while cocking the gun the trigger exhibits a nodding motion right? If you squeeze it slowly there is always this terrible sluggishness. Now this domehead rubber thingy  being pliant creates just the right tautness and puts your trigger in a semi-tensioned state making it crisp..On my 1377 the thickness was just right but on my two 2400KTs I did a bit of fine-sanding (#1000 sandpaper) as the sears won't engage..I dunno if anyone has ever done this before but I tell you it really works
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: 0351_Vet on October 10, 2012, 04:32:06 PM
@Crosshairs
How do you secure it to the trigger tang (contact point) ?
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: crossliner on October 11, 2012, 05:42:02 AM
Mr. Vet it's crossliner baby and not Mr. X'hairs aka AIRGUN HOARDER EXTRAORDINAIRE  :D..It is glued on..Use the tip of a pointed stick as it needs an infinitesimal amount. The small disposable lighter o-rings work fine too and also that flathead rubber that has a tail..It is round but it has a tail that you need to cut off..I like this dome-shaped  rubber though. Best regards.
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: 0351_Vet on October 14, 2012, 02:46:28 PM
Thanks CrossLINER  :-*
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: Trophyhunter49 on October 14, 2012, 07:39:44 PM
  What ever or when ever it works and is very hard to get it on the transfer port. But when you do it WORKS :-*
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: 1377x on October 15, 2012, 09:03:21 AM
thats why i use a transfer port gasket split into two o-rings
there is a line that runs through the gasket in the center.i get a brand new razor blade drag it along the line presto two top seals
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: Tater on October 15, 2012, 05:22:15 PM
Quote from: 1377x on October 15, 2012, 09:03:21 AM
thats why i use a transfer port gasket split into two o-rings
there is a line that runs through the gasket in the center.i get a brand new razor blade drag it along the line presto two top seals

I love this idea, but one question for you:
I assume that after cutting it the "flat" side would face down and the rounded surface up? Or maybe it doesn't make a difference?
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: 1377x on October 17, 2012, 09:26:46 AM
Quote from: Tater on October 15, 2012, 05:22:15 PM
I love this idea, but one question for you:
I assume that after cutting it the "flat" side would face down and the rounded surface up? Or maybe it doesn't make a difference?
its usually flat on all sides, a stock crosman transfer port gasket is square-no round sides like a regular o-ring, once youre in the line take your time
if you do mess up and end up with a wavy cut put that side down the straight side will go into the barrel
Title: Re: HELP with 1377
Post by: Tater on October 17, 2012, 04:39:37 PM
Thank you sir.   :-*