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Crosman air pistol - General => Crosman air pistol - General discussion => Topic started by: natoround on October 19, 2012, 02:27:09 AM

Title: 1377 Steel Breech
Post by: natoround on October 19, 2012, 02:27:09 AM
I understand the  Crosman  1377 and  1322 breech are the same. The 1322 breech is hard to find  right now  so I ordered a 1377 breech  and a 1322 extended probe bolt from Mellon  Air. The 1377  bolt with the breech kit seems to work just fine  in the 1322. Is there a minor  difference in the pellet end  of the bolt? I feel like it shouldn't work  but it  does... Unless someone  can see a issue with it I 'll go my  1322 pellet  popping way while  I want  on the Mellon Air  1322 bolt.
Title: Re: 1377 Steel Breech
Post by: 1377x on October 19, 2012, 02:32:17 AM
the 1322 steel breech is actually the 2240sbk
Title: Re: 1377 Steel Breech
Post by: arkmaker † on October 19, 2012, 02:39:18 AM
The difference is the o-ring groove and o-ring. If it seems to seal ok for you go ahead and shoot. But you may be loosing and bit of air there, then again, maybe not. A tissue over the loading port and shoot. I would go ahead and change to the Mellon bolt when you get it though either way.
Rich
Title: Re: 1377 Steel Breech
Post by: Trophyhunter49 on October 19, 2012, 03:10:05 AM
 Is ther less grove on .22  bolt than the .177? ???
Title: Re: 1377 Steel Breech
Post by: BDS on October 19, 2012, 03:12:59 AM
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on October 19, 2012, 03:10:05 AM
Is ther less grove on .22  bolt than the .177? ???

No but it's a diff diameter and o-ring to match the .22 breech
Title: Re: 1377 Steel Breech
Post by: Trophyhunter49 on October 19, 2012, 03:15:56 AM
  Ok, I knew the oring was bigger . Learn more everday around here :-*
Title: Re: 1377 Steel Breech
Post by: BDS on October 19, 2012, 03:19:39 AM
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on October 19, 2012, 03:15:56 AM
  Ok, I knew the oring was bigger . Learn more everday around here :-*

Learning is "spending" around here! :D ;D
Title: Re: 1377 Steel Breech
Post by: arkmaker † on October 19, 2012, 11:49:01 AM
The o-ring needs to be bigger because the .22 barrel loading port angle and bore is larger than the .177 barrel angle. So with a .177 bolt and oring, it would seat at (or closer to) the bore of a .22 barrel instead of on the angle, which may allow gas to blow by easier than if sealed properly on the angle alone.


I have been in-between bolts just like you and used the .177 bolt with the .22 barrel until I got a .22 bolt with little air loss. I think I might have even added a larger oring at one time per another members suggestion. But, in the long run you are better off with the correct bolt to barrel match up. The only problem I could see was if I blew the oring (low probability in my opinion) and it came back and "shot my eye out". I wear glasses so I took the risk  ;)
Title: Re: 1377 Steel Breech
Post by: natoround on October 20, 2012, 04:09:52 AM
So  far  seems to work fine which I don't understand.... Anybody know how long Mellon Air is  taking to fill orders now?
Title: Re: 1377 Steel Breech
Post by: Trophyhunter49 on October 20, 2012, 04:19:25 AM
Anywhere from4 to 5 weeks :(
Title: Re: 1377 Steel Breech
Post by: 1377x on October 20, 2012, 06:58:45 AM
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on October 20, 2012, 04:19:25 AM
Anywhere from4 to 5 weeks :(
plus the days he just to took off.its on his site
Title: Re: 1377 Steel Breech
Post by: bgmcgee on October 21, 2012, 02:44:58 AM
Been 6 weeks and counting on my order from Mellon air.
Title: Re: 1377 Steel Breech
Post by: Trophyhunter49 on October 21, 2012, 03:53:21 AM
Quote from: bgmcgee on October 21, 2012, 02:44:58 AM
Been 6 weeks and counting on my order from Mellon air.
That stinks :( :(
Title: Re: 1377 Steel Breech
Post by: 1377x on October 21, 2012, 06:32:23 AM
its worth the wait if you dont mind it
best prices out of all the custom parts vendors
Title: Re: 1377 Steel Breech
Post by: Trophyhunter49 on October 21, 2012, 09:32:56 PM
Quote from: 1377x on October 21, 2012, 06:32:23 AM
its worth the wait if you dont mind it
best prices out of all the custom parts vendors
This very much true, that's why the looong wait
Title: Re: 1377 Steel Breech
Post by: natoround on October 22, 2012, 01:12:30 AM
It would be  nice if he replied when he  got the  order and  gave a expected date. Are there any other good dealers that ship faster?
Title: Re: 1377 Steel Breech
Post by: 1377x on October 22, 2012, 06:15:16 AM
Quote from: natoround on October 22, 2012, 01:12:30 AM
It would be  nice if he replied when he  got the  order and  gave a expected date. Are there any other good dealers that ship faster?
all that does it takes time away from working on orders.this is actually a thing where minutes and seconds count.think of how much wasted time would occur if he did that for every order.hours wasted on e-mails that could have been put towards shop time.
its right on his website where you order from.
QuoteREAD THIS PAGE.

0CT.1
I WILL BE OUT OF TOWN OCT 4-9. I WILL NOT BE ANSWERING EMAILS. 

SEPT. 18
I AM 5 WEEKS BEHIND AS OF TODAY. THAT MEANS FROM THE DAY I RECEIVE PAYMENT. IF IT'S BEEN MORE THAN 5 WEEKS IT'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT DONE YET.

I SPEND 1-2 HOURS A DAY ON EMAILS WANTING TO KNOW IF YOUR ORDER IS DONE, OR ETA ON WHEN IT WILL BE DONE. THIS IS TIME I COULD BE MAKING PARTS. WHEN YOUR ORDER IS READY I SHIP IT. IF YOU WANT A REFUND ON AN ORDER NOT SHIPPED YET, JUST ASK.
 
I AM ALSO SPENDING FAR TOO MUCH TIME TELLING PEOPLE HOW THIER GUN WORKS. THIS IS NOT MY JOB. I MAKE PARTS. I AM NOT RUNNING A SCHOOL. GET YOUR INFO FROM THE FORUMS. THAT'S WHERE I LEARNED.   
cant miss it if you read it ;)

to answer your question
yes there are other vendors buy expect to pay twice the price plus shipping
on the start page there is a links page scroll through that you will see a few vendors