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Title: Build to sell
Post by: Crosshairs on December 11, 2012, 02:28:28 PM
I'm thinking about building a gun just to sell. Not sure if its going to be a 13xx or a 22xx but wonder if anyone is interested before I even start. Any thoughts on this.
Mike
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: breakfastchef on December 11, 2012, 03:07:32 PM
Build a 1740. Folks like those.
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: RC1947 on December 11, 2012, 03:16:49 PM
Since whatever you build will be an excellent gun, I think it's a good idea, and a buyer wouldn't have to go through the wait for Crosman to build one. RC
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: BDS on December 11, 2012, 04:05:19 PM
On this Forum? Ha ha ha ;D :D :-*

Here's a good list...

Backpacker 2289
Steel Breech
Extended Probe & Crosshairs Bolt Handle
Williams WGR Rear Sight / Crosman Green F.O. Front Sight
1701P Grips and Screws (for pistol duty when needed)
Usual Trigger Polish & Spring Mods
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: WyoMan on December 11, 2012, 04:14:41 PM
Quote from: Crosshairs on December 11, 2012, 02:28:28 PM
I'm thinking about building a gun just to sell. Not sure if its going to be a 13xx or a 22xx but wonder if anyone is interested before I even start. Any thoughts on this.
Mike
I hope you are able to do that - the ultimate - self funding addiction  :)
Are you sure you wouldn't grow too attached and decide to keep them?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: 1377x on December 11, 2012, 04:34:44 PM
i watch the for sale forums daily
1377's just dont sell the way they used to
i think a pcp pistol would sell well
a 2250b with disco valve or a 2400 with disco valve
im going to test that theory when i get this 2300 pcp built filled to 1400-1600psi at most
if it doesnt sell oh well i'll have a cool pistol and keep on listing it until tax time if i need to.when folks have some extra stimulus funds
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: chongman on December 11, 2012, 05:29:23 PM
"Stubby" 2240/1740's...build to sell something unique  :)
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: mr007s on December 11, 2012, 05:30:24 PM
OH, and Mike, try to keep her around 65 bucks :)
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: BDS on December 11, 2012, 05:37:08 PM
Quote from: mr007s on December 11, 2012, 05:30:24 PM
OH, and Mike, try to keep her around 65 bucks :)

:D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: 1377x on December 11, 2012, 06:05:04 PM
Quote from: chongman on December 11, 2012, 05:29:23 PM
"Stubby" 2240/1740's...build to sell something unique  :)
a real stubby is hard to get parts for if you are going for the 8 gram cart stubby
the only person making grips for them disappeared with everyones funds and guns that had any business with him
but the other stubby which is a short barreled 2240/2300 is easier to come by and have sold rather quickly
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: BDS on December 11, 2012, 06:42:20 PM
Quote from: chongman on December 11, 2012, 05:29:23 PM
"Stubby" 2240/1740's...build to sell something unique  :)

How about this one Chongman?  :-*
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: BigErn on December 11, 2012, 08:32:46 PM
Quote from: BDS on December 11, 2012, 06:42:20 PM
How about this one Chongman?  :-*

I'll take that one thank you! I love that pistol. Saw the other day on the net too.
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: BDS on December 11, 2012, 08:36:06 PM
Quote from: BigErn on December 11, 2012, 08:32:46 PM
I'll take that one thank you! I love that pistol. Saw the other day on the net too.

Ya it's cool, just needs a smaller rear sight and some 1701 Benji grips to make it complete.
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: millipede on December 11, 2012, 08:58:38 PM
Quote from: breakfastchef on December 11, 2012, 03:07:32 PM
Build a 1740. Folks like those.

it's true..  i converted my 2240 to .177 using a spare 1377 barrel and it.. is..  AWESOME.  The pellet literally goes in the exact same hole everytime
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: BDS on December 11, 2012, 09:15:08 PM
Quote from: millipede on December 11, 2012, 08:58:38 PM
it's true..  i converted my 2240 to .177 using a spare 1377 barrel and it.. is..  AWESOME.  The pellet literally goes in the exact same hole everytime

Yup, the 2300 with the LW Barrel is the same way, would be boring if it wasn't so dam much fun  :D
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: RC1947 on December 11, 2012, 09:20:38 PM
Quote from: chongman on December 11, 2012, 05:29:23 PM
"Stubby" 2240/1740's...build to sell something unique  :)
I'm with that! :-* RC
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: Crosshairs on December 11, 2012, 11:02:24 PM
Quote from: breakfastchef on December 11, 2012, 03:07:32 PM
Build a 1740. Folks like those.
I like this idea Larry and have most of the parts.
                                         Mike
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: Crosshairs on December 11, 2012, 11:03:52 PM
Quote from: RC1947 on December 11, 2012, 03:16:49 PM
Since whatever you build will be an excellent gun, I think it's a good idea, and a buyer wouldn't have to go through the wait for Crosman to build one. RC
Thanks RC !
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: Crosshairs on December 11, 2012, 11:06:39 PM
Quote from: WyoMan on December 11, 2012, 04:14:41 PM
I hope you are able to do that - the ultimate - self funding addiction  :)
Are you sure you wouldn't grow too attached and decide to keep them?  ;D ;D
I have thought of selling some of my builds but as you said it's hard to let them go. But if i build it just to sell i think i could do it.
                   Mike
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: Crosshairs on December 11, 2012, 11:12:15 PM
Quote from: chongman on December 11, 2012, 05:29:23 PM
"Stubby" 2240/1740's...build to sell something unique  :)
No stubby they are cool and different but when my daughter said wow some made a gun for girls i quickly changed my mind.With such a short barrel distance will be very limited. And really dont think it would sell as fast. But thats just my opinion and you know what they say about that.
                        Mike
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: WyoMan on December 11, 2012, 11:24:14 PM
Quote from: Crosshairs on December 11, 2012, 11:06:39 PM
I have thought of selling some of my builds but as you said it's hard to let them go. But if i build it just to sell i think i could do it.
                   Mike
I would love to see more people offering custom builds (and parts) - better for the whole AG community and maybe it expands too!!!
Not sure what price range gives the best market. If you can do a lot from $100->$200.....who knows? :-*
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: Crosshairs on December 11, 2012, 11:41:43 PM
Quote from: WyoMan on December 11, 2012, 11:24:14 PM
I would love to see more people offering custom builds (and parts) - better for the whole AG community and maybe it expands too!!!
Not sure what price range gives the best market. If you can do a lot from $100->$200.....who knows? :-*
I don't think i would go to crazy with the price. For one i love to build them it gives me something to pass the time. And really have no idea what to charge. I guess parts used and my time 150.00 bucks an hour just kidding. I think i will go with the 1740 with a 10" 1377 barrel, a crosshairs trigger job, stock grips, steel breech and some crosshairs brass bits. stock valve. So what does one charge ????? And what would someone pay.
                                                       Mike
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: WyoMan on December 11, 2012, 11:53:20 PM
QuoteSo what does one charge ?? And what would someone pay.
That's Holy Grail of marketing.....but doesn't sound like you need big profit so...... ???
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: Crosshairs on December 12, 2012, 12:02:26 AM
Quote from: WyoMan on December 11, 2012, 11:53:20 PM
That's Holy Grail of marketing.....but doesn't sound like you need big profit so...... ???
Yeah if i could make a few bucks and help some members that dont have the skills and want a custom shooter im good with that.
                                                         Mike
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: arkmaker † on December 12, 2012, 01:14:31 AM
Quote from: BDS on December 11, 2012, 06:42:20 PM
How about this one Chongman?  :-*
How much??







Also Mike, don't look to get rich. It seems I never make money on my guns unless I part them out. A 1740 does sound like the ticket. Would be great to find a plain tube for it (2300 or original 1740).


Rich
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: chongman on December 12, 2012, 01:59:24 AM
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o162/chongman1/air%20pistols/2240StubbyLS.jpg)

Seeing as I can't get the attached picture to go with me to a new post I stole it and stashed it  ;D

I'd love something like that  :)
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: breakfastchef on December 12, 2012, 02:11:10 AM
Quote from: Crosshairs on December 11, 2012, 11:41:43 PM
I don't think i would go to crazy with the price. For one i love to build them it gives me something to pass the time. And really have no idea what to charge. I guess parts used and my time 150.00 bucks an hour just kidding. I think i will go with the 1740 with a 10" 1377 barrel, a crosshairs trigger job, stock grips, steel breech and some crosshairs brass bits. stock valve. So what does one charge ????? And what would someone pay.
                                                       Mike

I threw together a 1740 earlier in the year and sold it in a few hours for @$100. I think your should shoot for a price between $150-$175. This would be a realistic price range particularly with some of your brass handiwork, reworked trigger group and some performance data from the chronograph. Oh, and don't use stock 2240 grips; get a set from the 1701P instead.
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: 1377x on December 12, 2012, 05:11:18 AM
Quote from: breakfastchef on December 12, 2012, 02:11:10 AM
I threw together a 1740 earlier in the year and sold it in a few hours for @$100. I think your should shoot for a price between $150-$175. This would be a realistic price range particularly with some of your brass handiwork, reworked trigger group and some performance data from the chronograph. Oh, and don't use stock 2240 grips; get a set from the 1701P instead.
$100 is what i was thinking.
i see a 2240 going for $140 now on the aa classifieds been there for some time now
performance and chrony make the sale
every gun i have listed without data went to the next page
as soon as i posted a target pic and chrony numbers minutes later there was a sale
  1701 grips people like them must have
if you are building from parts you already have then you shouldnt be to bad off.crosman has been raising the prices of their parts so you might be ahead i fyou have most of them
only because i shop around for parts and get some deals i can make a couple of dollars most of the time i just get my money back
the 2300 and 2400 really hurt my sales of 2250b's
i used to make $40 off the sale of them now i break even maybe a $10-$20 profit if i get a deal on parts
the gun i sold was a 2250b i would have lost $20 on the sale but got to keep the stock so i broke even
when i know im only get my mone back its  +shipping.
too much brass isnt good just a few highlights makes for a good sale .end caps safety and trigger is about it for brass
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: Crosshairs on December 12, 2012, 01:35:46 PM
Thanks for all of your input guys. Larry I think your right about the grips. I guess if a crosman custom adjustable trigger spring added I will need to add it to the price.
Title: Re: Build to sell
Post by: BDS on December 12, 2012, 05:48:23 PM
Mike, the P/N for those grips are 1700-031 and 1700-032

Doin the math... baseline 2300KT .177 from CCS, 10" barrel and steel breech and brass trigger shoe is $86. Your added labor and maybe brass bolt handle, brass grip screws plus 1700 Grips gets us to $140-ish sell price?

PS forgot, the trigger adjuster and set screw are standard on the CCS guns, right?