Terrific deal alert!
You the man Larry....order placed, delivery Jan.7-10 :-*
Quote from: chongman on January 01, 2013, 05:56:02 AM
You the man Larry....order placed, delivery Jan.7-10 :-*
Ditto! This is the cheap project gun I need to do some testing based on some of the work done by those modding pioneers. The same sort of stuff Wyoman has been doing recently.
Wow, I was not even thinking of getting one, but for $39.99........hmmm.
Just pulled the trigger ;D Thanks Chef :-* $40 and free shipping - wow!
Ordering the moment I get home. Don't want my debit card number on the computer at work.
It took several hours, but I finally got approve from the wife.
1377 ordered! :D
Thanks for the heads up, ordered one for me and one for my friend. :-*
Tater , I didn't ask my wife Just ordered one! LOL ;D ;D Like I need another one I have 4 now! Well you can never have to many ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Trophyhunter49 on January 02, 2013, 01:33:40 AM
Tater , I didn't ask my wife Just ordered one! LOL ;D ;D Like I need another one I have 4 now! Well you can never have to many ;D ;D ;D
Four wives or four 1377's? I hope you are sane enough to have the latter.
Quote from: breakfastchef on January 02, 2013, 01:34:23 AM
Four wives or four 1377's? I hope you are sane enough to have the latter.
;D ;D ;D One wife 4 13XX. Can't handle more than one wife ;D ;D ;D ;D
You guys got lucky. 8) Seems the price went back up to $54.00 again.
The crosman 357-6 is $39.99 though :-*
I went ahead and bought the revolver too.
:)
One left at $62 gotta love that dynamic pricing!
Quote from: Tater on January 01, 2013, 11:00:18 PM
It took several hours, but I finally got approve from the wife.
1377 ordered! :D Thanks for the heads-up BreakfastChef. :-*
Quote from: airguns100 on January 02, 2013, 02:21:37 AM
You guys got lucky. 8) Seems the price went back up to $54.00 again.
No it's still 39.99. It's the American Classic with the brown grips. Go get one!
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=1377 (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=1377)
http://www.amazon.com/Crosman-American-Classic-Variable-Action/dp/B0018LB9A0/ref=lh_ni_t (http://www.amazon.com/Crosman-American-Classic-Variable-Action/dp/B0018LB9A0/ref=lh_ni_t)
Quote from: Fronzdan on January 02, 2013, 06:40:35 PM
No it's still 39.99. It's the American Classic with the brown grips. Go get one!
+1... the brown handle gun still avaialble
I bedliner painted all my brown grips...they look better than the black ones. If I didn't JUST get the backpacker for Christmas I'd get one of these.
Quote from: Fronzdan on January 02, 2013, 09:16:36 PM
I bedliner painted all my brown grips...they look better than the black ones. If I didn't JUST get the backpacker for Christmas I'd get one of these.
For the price you should anyway ;)
So, seeing as we have quite a few members who have jumped on the 1377 I think we should call it the Amazon3999 :D
Quote from: Fronzdan on January 02, 2013, 06:40:35 PM
No it's still 39.99. It's the American Classic with the brown grips. Go get one!
every time i click that link, it takes me to the 1377 for 60 bucks? Maybe because i'm in Canada ???
edit. i found it. I just realized, it's not worth it for me, i'm in Canada. I will have to pay for customs fee, canadian taxes, and shipping too, dont forget. >:( ;D
Can you fellas just go to a store and buy a 1377 in Canada or, are there some set of laws, rituals and paperwork to manage?
They must have run out of them. Now $53.89
http://www.amazon.com/Crosman-American-Classic-Variable-Action/dp/B0018LB9A0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357251112&sr=8-1&keywords=1377 (http://www.amazon.com/Crosman-American-Classic-Variable-Action/dp/B0018LB9A0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357251112&sr=8-1&keywords=1377)
Down at the bottom it still shows them at $39.99 but, click on that it goes here and tells you, Temporarily out of stock. Order now and we'll deliver when available. We'll e-mail you with an estimated delivery date as soon as we have more information. Your credit card will not be charged until we ship the item.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0018LB9A0/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0018LB9A0/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new)
Just checked it out and they may have got some in ?? ???
Mine shipped today, est. delivery is Monday :)
Quote from: chongman on January 04, 2013, 03:08:41 AM
Mine shipped today, est. delivery is Monday :)
Excellent :-* I've got your back CM, drop scheduled for next Wed :) :)
Great mine will be here on Friday (11th) Whaooo :D
Quote from: BDS on January 03, 2013, 11:08:15 PM
Can you fellas just go to a store and buy a 1377 in Canada or, are there some set of laws, rituals and paperwork to manage?
-Any air gun shooting 500 F.P.S or under only requires a piece of photo I.D and you must be at least 18 years of age to purchase.
-Any air gun shooting above 500 F.P.S is treated as a regular firearm. A P.A.L licence --Possession And Acquisition for firearms-- will be required to purchase.
My Crosman 3999 be arriving on Tuesday the 8th. :)
Quote from: airguns100 on January 04, 2013, 06:22:34 PM
-Any air gun shooting 500 F.P.S or under only requires a piece of photo I.D and you must be at least 18 years of age to purchase.
-Any air gun shooting above 500 F.P.S is treated as a regular firearm. A P.A.L licence --Possession And Acquisition for firearms-- will be required to purchase.
OK, shades of what WE will be doing down here in the not too distant future. So, bottom line, a Red Ryder at 350 fps is ok but a Mendoza Bronco at 600 fps requires a license.
I guess your buereaucrats use the owners manual as their guideline for the mfr's fps?
Quote from: BDS on January 04, 2013, 10:58:36 PM
OK, shades of what WE will be doing down here in the not too distant future. So, bottom line, a Red Ryder at 350 fps is ok but a Mendoza Bronco at 600 fps requires a license.
I guess your buereaucrats use the owners manual as their guideline for the mfr's fps?
Well. I'll try to explain this in a nut shell. Canada's laws are a little confusing but, are implemented for good reasons.
Yes. The Red Ryder at 350 F.P.S is perfectly legal to purchase with out a gun license in Canada. You must be 18 years of age and have valid photo I.D proving, sometimes three pieces is required. That depends on the store. Here's an example of that: I went to Canadian Tire --a commercial store that sells just about everything-- and they only asked for my drivers licence to purchase my 2289g backpacker. Later that year, I went to privately owned gun shop just outside of Toronto, and they asked for my drivers license, and two other pieces of I.D that had the matching name on the drivers license. Honestly, i have no problem with that. (I'm assuming) The closer you get to heavily populated cities, the more careful they are.
Only air guns shooting above 500 F.P.S requires a valid up-to-date P.A.L licence.
Example: (Any) air gun shooting 501 F.P.S will require a P.A.L gun licence. --no, i'm serious. It's no joke here.
In Canada there are three classes of fire arms
1. Long guns -includes all shot guns and (non assault) hunting rifles.
2. Restricted - includes all hand guns and assault rifles.
3. Prohibited - includes all full automatic hand guns, assault rifles, AND any hand gun with a barrel under 3" long. Your basic saturday night specials. A Jennings J22 is highly illegal here. massive fines or jail time for having something like that here. Also, You can NOT apply for a concealed weapons license in anywhere Canada.
Being a regular citizen, When applying for your P.A.L you can only apply for the first two. 1. long guns and 2. restricted.
Prohibited is only for Law Enforcement OR any guns that have been "grandfathered down to you prior to the year that took effect" As well as gun shop's that are allowed to sell those weapons to Law Enforcement officers. As a regular citizen, You can no longer apply for a Prohib license. It will never happen anymore.
With all that being said,
2289g is sold by Crosman as a "rifle". If you modify it to shoot above 500 F.P.S, you will need class 1./Long guns printed on the back of your P.A.L.
1377c is sold by crosman as a "pistol". If you modify it to shoot above 500 F.P.S, you will need a class 2./Restricted guns printed on the back of your license.
Crosman pokes a little tiny hole in the back of the valve so 25% of the air escapes out of that hole, and the other 75% goes through the barrel. That guarantees the gun will NEVER shoot above 450 F.P.S. It'll never happen, even with light pellets. In Canada, You "may" modify your Crosmans to shoot higher then 450, but just do NOT modify it to shoot above 500 F.P.S . Unless you plan to register it with the RCMP as a real gun.
Here's an example of a Canadian version valves Crosman puts into all the 1377's and 2289's coming into Canada.
It looks like your regular standard valve, right?
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n196/LOC519/IMG_0111-1_zps47e0877b.jpg)
That's a Canadian valve. note the hole above the valve stem.
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n196/LOC519/IMG_0112-1_zpse4bd238d.jpg)
Wow, those Canadian laws are brutal. And I thought Illinois was bad.
Quote from: Tater on January 05, 2013, 12:31:08 AM
Wow, those Canadian laws are brutal. And I thought Illinois was bad.
Canada's laws are less restrictive then NYC and New Jersey. You can't even buy a bb gun in New Jersey anymore (without having some sort of license). There were too many problems with people not respecting others. Idiots, general everyday morons that don't stop and think about others around them. Other people do not understand that that's just an air gun, and not a real gun.
There was a situation like that here last year, a kid was pointing his (Replica 45caliber) BB gun out of his bedroom window in a basic residential area shooting it at birds. 15 minutes later the SWAT team was there with full armour on ready for battle. This is the type of behaviour that is going to ruin our hobby/sport for good. >:(
Quote from: airguns100 on January 05, 2013, 12:14:18 AM
Well. I'll try to explain this in a nut shell. Canada's laws are a little confusing but, are implemented for good reasons.
Yes. The Red Ryder at 350 F.P.S is perfectly legal to purchase with out a gun license in Canada. You must be 18 years of age and have valid photo I.D proving, sometimes three pieces is required. That depends on the store. Here's an example of that: I went to Canadian Tire --a commercial store that sells just about everything-- and they only asked for my drivers licence to purchase my 2289g backpacker. Later that year, I went to privately owned gun shop just outside of Toronto, and they asked for my drivers license, and two other pieces of I.D that had the matching name on the drivers license. Honestly, i have no problem with that. (I'm assuming) The closer you get to heavily populated cities, the more careful they are.
Only air guns shooting above 500 F.P.S requires a valid up-to-date P.A.L licence.
Example: (Any) air gun shooting 501 F.P.S will require a P.A.L gun licence. --no, i'm serious. It's no joke here.
In Canada there are three classes of fire arms
1. Long guns -includes all shot guns and (non assault) hunting rifles.
2. Restricted - includes all hand guns and assault rifles.
3. Prohibited - includes all full automatic hand guns, assault rifles, AND any hand gun with a barrel under 3" long. Your basic saturday night specials. A Jennings J22 is highly illegal here. massive fines or jail time for having something like that here. Also, You can NOT apply for a concealed weapons license in anywhere Canada.
Being a regular citizen, When applying for your P.A.L you can only apply for the first two. 1. long guns and 2. restricted.
Prohibited is only for Law Enforcement OR any guns that have been "grandfathered down to you prior to the year that took effect" As well as gun shop's that are allowed to sell those weapons to Law Enforcement officers. As a regular citizen, You can no longer apply for a Prohib license. It will never happen anymore.
With all that being said,
2289g is sold by Crosman as a "rifle". If you modify it to shoot above 500 F.P.S, you will need class 1./Long guns printed on the back of your P.A.L.
1377c is sold by crosman as a "pistol". If you modify it to shoot above 500 F.P.S, you will need a class 2./Restricted guns printed on the back of your license.
Crosman pokes a little tiny hole in the back of the valve so 25% of the air escapes out of that hole, and the other 75% goes through the barrel. That guarantees the gun will NEVER shoot above 450 F.P.S. It'll never happen, even with light pellets. In Canada, You "may" modify your Crosmans to shoot higher then 450, but just do NOT modify it to shoot above 500 F.P.S . Unless you plan to register it with the RCMP as a real gun.
Here's an example of a Canadian version valves Crosman puts into all the 1377's and 2289's coming into Canada.
It looks like your regular standard valve, right?
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n196/LOC519/IMG_0111-1_zps47e0877b.jpg)
That's a Canadian valve. note the hole above the valve stem.
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n196/LOC519/IMG_0112-1_zpse4bd238d.jpg)
Sell out and move to Arizona,USA where you can be free.
;D Thank you mud, i may just do that in the future. I sure do miss living in FL 8)
Like BRAVEHEART said, just before "they" choped off his head, FREEDOM!!!!!!!
I'm buying a lotto ticket, tomorrow. everyone prey for me. ;D
This is already cheap to us the price is usually $160-180 here in the Phils..
http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/6656239/BNew+Crosman+Pumpmaster+.177+Pistol+Airgun+NO+STOCK (http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/6656239/BNew+Crosman+Pumpmaster+.177+Pistol+Airgun+NO+STOCK)!!+NO+STOCK!!
Mine was supposed to get here next Tuesday but I got it today.
Dang Tater! You must be close to a warehouse. I'm on the coast of Virginia and mine is coming from Kentucky on Monday. I live in the boonies, no FedEx or UPS on Saturdays :(
Quote from: chongman on January 06, 2013, 06:49:29 AM
Dang Tater! You must be close to a warehouse. I'm on the coast of Virginia and mine is coming from Kentucky on Monday. I live in the boonies, no FedEx or UPS on Saturdays :(
Mine came USPS and yes, we have great postal service here. A week or two before Xmas I got a package delivered USPS on a Sunday. Mine came from Kentucky here too but I'm closer than you.
Mine just switched to SmartPost-in transit... not a good thing for me.
I guess I should update, I did back out of this gun, but ordered a 2240. Already had a pump, needed co2
Quote from: mackelby on January 07, 2013, 08:23:19 PM
I guess I should update, I did back out of this gun, but ordered a 2240. Already had a pump, needed co2
Good call mackelby :-*
Looks like I will get my Amazon 1399 tomorrow morning ;)
I ordered one even though they were out of stock. Hopefully they will get more in.
Now you will have one for each hand.
This is awful... sitting here waiting for the mail girls to show with my Amazon order :-X
Quote from: chongman on January 08, 2013, 02:23:05 PM
This is awful... sitting here waiting for the mail girls to show with my Amazon order :-X
A familiar feeling indeed...... :-X
;D ;D Got mine today ;D ;D A day early ;D ;D
Received my 1377 today. If this were my first one, I would have packed it up and sent it to Amazon for a refund. This thing is so difficult to pump and the trigger is hideous. Thankfully I had a nice pair of maple RB Grips I purchased from arkmaker earlier this year to make this thing somewhat more comfortable to use. I am now going to recommend grips as the absolute first mod anyone should make over breech and trigger work.
After a session with the chrony to establish baseline velocities, this one is shooting much harder than my refurbed PC77 I got two years ago. At 10 pumps it is pushing 7.0g pellets (RWS Hobby) @550 fps.
Shoot , I haven't even opened it up yet!! May wait till spring to do that. NOT ;D ;D Goin to put a Flat top system in it as soon as I can :-*
Quote from: breakfastchef on January 11, 2013, 01:32:36 AM
Received my 1377 today. If this were my first one, I would have packed it up and sent it to Amazon for a refund. This thing is so difficult to pump and the trigger is hideous. Thankfully I had a nice pair of maple RB Grips I purchased from arkmaker earlier this year to make this thing somewhat more comfortable to use. I am now going to recommend grips as the absolute first mod anyone should make over breech and trigger work.
After a session with the chrony to establish baseline velocities, this one is shooting much harder than my refurbed PC77 I got two years ago. At 10 pumps it is pushing 7.0g pellets (RWS Hobby) @550 fps.
What do you want for $40.00? It's not a 2300kt. It is a fun gun.
Quote from: breakfastchef on January 11, 2013, 01:32:36 AM
Received my 1377 today. If this were my first one, I would have packed it up and sent it to Amazon for a refund. This thing is so difficult to pump and the trigger is hideous. Thankfully I had a nice pair of maple RB Grips I purchased from arkmaker earlier this year to make this thing somewhat more comfortable to use. I am now going to recommend grips as the absolute first mod anyone should make over breech and trigger work.
After a session with the chrony to establish baseline velocities, this one is shooting much harder than my refurbed PC77 I got two years ago. At 10 pumps it is pushing 7.0g pellets (RWS Hobby) @550 fps.
Hey Chef that's a pretty good baseline.....anyway, sounds like you got a project started! :-*
Quote from: WyoMan on January 11, 2013, 04:03:15 AM
Hey Chef that's a pretty good baseline.....anyway, sounds like you got a project started! :-*
I plan an historic journey (well, maybe an abbreviated one) that involves some of the work from the past and more recently revived by folks like Daysailer and you. Yes, valve and piston studies. More to come...waiting for a few bits from Mellon before I commence.
Quote from: breakfastchef on January 11, 2013, 01:32:36 AM
Received my 1377 today. If this were my first one, I would have packed it up and sent it to Amazon for a refund. This thing is so difficult to pump and the trigger is hideous. Thankfully I had a nice pair of maple RB Grips I purchased from arkmaker earlier this year to make this thing somewhat more comfortable to use. I am now going to recommend grips as the absolute first mod anyone should make over breech and trigger work.
After a session with the chrony to establish baseline velocities, this one is shooting much harder than my refurbed PC77 I got two years ago. At 10 pumps it is pushing 7.0g pellets (RWS Hobby) @550 fps.
I hear ya, I think the QC on these things is a roll of the dice. 180 degrees from your experience, my last $40 PC77 from Walmart shot harder than my flat top and modied 1377! And ya, grips are a must, I've been liking those newer pebble finished Cros grips with a lil epoxy and pellet weight glued inside e'm, sure beats those ugly "wood" grain things.
I was thinking when I opened up my $39 amazon 1377 was that it seemed very cheap. It pumped hard, it cocked hard, and it dripped in oil. It is the first 1377 I have bought in a while. In a way I thought it was due to the fact that my other ones have been modded and have turned out to be so jewel like in quality that I was comparing apples and oranges. However...
The air tube is rough (like it wasn't "sanded" before they blued it) the barrel has three spots on it that looks like it had rusted and someone wire brushed them before bluing. After I took it outside, I then noticed the brown hue of the barrel. It is so oily that it left a stain on my bench. I think it was over oiled to deal with the rusting of the barrel. The whole barrel is dull, it looks like the old rusty barrel of my 1970s Pumpmaster 760 after I oil it.
I too would have sent this back if it were not for the price and the fact that this will not remain in stock form.
HOWEVER, that is not an excuse for them to start making them shoddy and offering them at discount prices.
I would much rather have the quality that I know and pay the regular price.
But...
I did order two at this price, the other one is for my friend. His is nice. It looks and operates like you would expect. This one became my friends because he "intends" on keeping it in stock form. We'll see how long that lasts...
Now I am thinking about canceling my order and going to Walmart.... It's out of stock still, my guess is they will not have any more at that price ???
SquallyWally said... [I too would have sent this back if it were not for the price and the fact that this will not remain in stock form.
HOWEVER, that is not an excuse for them to start making them shoddy and offering them at discount prices.
/i]
I think you may have hit on it Wally (i.e. if it's too good to be true it prob is?)
There may have been some major returns fronm S/N xxxxxx to xxxxxx01 or some mfg dates and... Crosman culled out the remaining guns (unsold ones) and wholesaled e'm off to Amazon or whomever for $20 each, and Amazon marked e'm up a their usual 100% for $39.99?
I don't think the (few) sales at Walmart were similar quality issues, as my PC77 for $40-ish has some of the best fit and finish I have seen on these guns. Then again, maybe it was one of the first 1377's to get built after someone at Cros kicked someone in the Chinese factory in the nads over quality issues?
What to do???? I already have been working on some parts for this gun that I'm not even sure if I'm getting >:(
Quote from: BigErn on January 11, 2013, 05:35:43 PM
What to do???? I already have been working on some parts for this gun that I'm not even sure if I'm getting >:(
;D .. they won't go bad, you will find a use for them ... :-*
Quotethey won't go bad, you will find a use for them ... :-*
X2! Hang onto them. If you don't find a gun to build with them, you will be modding a gun in the future and think "Hey, I've got the perfect _________ (fill in the blank) for this mod." Either that, or you will read on here about someone needing just the right part for a mod and you will be able to sell it or give it to them and make his/her day (or whole week/month) better.
Cheers,
Well I got permission to open my friends 1377 that came with the same order as mine and it is a nice one.
It's build quality is perfect. Night and day difference.
This was the first crosman in my many years of shooting I have bought that had issues so I will forgive them.
I got my 1377 about a week ago and just finally opened it and fired it yesterday. Mine looks just fine and functions very well. The trigger is also just fine. For those of you that think these have a bad trigger, try shooting a Crosman 1077. You will no longer say anything negative about the 1377 (if most are like mine). And yet the 1077 has a large following and I get some great groups from mine despite that trigger.
My 1377 loves the Crosman Premier wadcutters. Most of my pellet guns don't like that pellet much. The 1377 also likes RWS Hobbys, which I almost always gave very good results with. I shot the gun from a bench at about 20 feet and got several 3-5 shot groups at about 1/4" and some larger of course. Not bad for my crappy eyesight and using open sights. I used either 3 or 5 pumps. The gun shot perfect as far as windage and shot maybe an inch above the aiming point. Since I use a 6:00 hold that got me dead center into the bullseye. No sight adjustments needed!! That is a first for me with any firearm.
Anyway, I am a happy camper with this air gun.
Have been all over the internet over the last 2 weeks deciding what pistol I wanted to start with for modding... and have looked at these on Allot of websites. The best price I have seen on them is like $54.
Was to good of a buy to pass up... ordered one last night :)
Wasn't even going to get one yet... but knew I would want another someday (had one years ago with the rear breech). Won't be modding this one to start... going to use it as a family plinker. Still want a 2300 or 2400 to start the modding as the first one.
Had some stuff in my Amazon wish list that qualified for the free standard shipping but wasn't up to the $25 min order. Adding the $39.99 American Classic 1377 obviously would do that. So I took my chances and ordered one. It shipped this morning and I should have it by Tuesday (Monday, if I'm lucky). I'm hoping too, that I'll be lucky enough to not have to relegate the entire gun to the "donor" mode. With more than a $20 difference in price from the WalMart version, I can afford to buy some upgrades that I just might have done with a full priced gun anyway! Flex
Stay positive... it's gonna be a good gun. If it's grossly bad quality for some reason(s), don't mess with it do the Amazon return shuffle asap , like next morning. So many of these have been bought that your replacement will be fresh stock from totally diff mfg batches diverted from Walmart to Amazon! :-*
Amazon is really good about returns. I had to return something and they chipped in some $$ for the shipping.
By the way, the 1322 is still priced a lot higher at $54.99 plus about $8.50 shipping. They also have the 1322 Premier Shooters Kit with shoulder stock, glasses, pellets and a pellet bag for $79.99 plus $7.50 freight. I wouldn't mind one of those at all.
Quote from: birdmove on January 26, 2013, 03:39:06 AM
Amazon is really good about returns. I had to return something and they chipped in some $$ for the shipping.
By the way, the 1322 is still priced a lot higher at $54.99 plus about $8.50 shipping. They also have the 1322 Premier Shooters Kit with shoulder stock, glasses, pellets and a pellet bag for $79.99 plus $7.50 freight. I wouldn't mind one of those at all.
Managed to get my 1322c from a Local Gun Shop (LGS), out the door for $56 and change. Pretty satisfied with that. RE: the Premier Shooter's Kit, doesn't sound too different from the Doomsday Bug-Out Survival Kit available from WalMart for $87 Site to Store (free shipping). Barrel is 2" longer and forearm is the rifle-type. Other than the stock, the other stuff is fluff. If you're going to mod the 1322, the WalMart route might be the way to go. Is the shoulder stock in the Premier Shooter's Kit the "quick release" type or the screw on type? The downside of the 2289g Backpacker in the Doomsday ...Kit is that it's not really designed to be used in the pistol mode. It's certainly easy enough to get grips (the kit doesn't come with them) but the real issue is that the stock retention pin makes for a VERY uncomfortable hand hold! I'm pretty sure that mine will stay in the rifle mode and the 1322c will stay in the pistol mode. (I do reserve the right tho, to change my mind at a moments notice ;)). Flex
It's the screw on type, not quick release.
Quote from: birdmove on January 26, 2013, 06:50:55 PM
It's the screw on type, not quick release.
The screw on type may be more versatile and cheaper in the long run if you aren't planning on any further modifications :o and don't want anymore airguns ???. (Can't say for sure). I'm thinking that it wouldn't be much of an issue to remove the stock retention pin and spring then drill out the grip for fastening with screws OR if one is in the opposite situation, buying a stock retention pin and spring (and maybe a shoulder stock pad) and living with the holes in the sides of the hand grip. Flex
QuoteI'm thinking that it wouldn't be much of an issue to remove the stock retention pin and spring then drill out the grip for fastening with screws OR if one is in the opposite situation, buying a stock retention pin and spring (and maybe a shoulder stock pad) and living with the holes in the sides of the hand grip. Flex
I've done it both ways. It is not too hard to determine the correct location of the holes to use the screws and that is the way I prefer to do it. The only issue going the other way is when you remove your stock with the QD pin installed and putting the grips on it, the QD pin can dig into your hand when shooting with the pistol grips. I prefer the stock with the holes drilled and having to remove and install the screws to having the QD pin dig into the web of my thumb during pistol practice (I have big hands).
If you are only going to shoot it as a carbine but need to break it down for transport or to fit it in your case, using the QD pin would be quicker and less hassle than fooling with the screws.
Cheers,
Quote from: JEBert on January 28, 2013, 01:52:19 AM
I've done it both ways. It is not too hard to determine the correct location of the holes to use the screws and that is the way I prefer to do it. The only issue going the other way is when you remove your stock with the QD pin installed and putting the grips on it, the QD pin can dig into your hand when shooting with the pistol grips. I prefer the stock with the holes drilled and having to remove and install the screws to having the QD pin dig into the web of my thumb during pistol practice (I have big hands).
If you are only going to shoot it as a carbine but need to break it down for transport or to fit it in your case, using the QD pin would be quicker and less hassle than fooling with the screws.
Cheers,
I just love these online forums!!! You don't even have to think up your own justification for buying both a 1322c AND a 2289g (Doomsday... Kit) :-* Flex
And if there weren't enough reasons to get a 2289 bug out kit, how about one for $79.88 with free shipping.
http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/TopNavCatalogSearch?Ntt=bug+out&Ntk=All&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&N=0&storeId=10151&langId=-1&catalogId=10051 (http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/TopNavCatalogSearch?Ntt=bug+out&Ntk=All&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&N=0&storeId=10151&langId=-1&catalogId=10051)
Quote from: DaveB50 on January 28, 2013, 07:14:59 AM
And if there weren't enough reasons to get a 2289 bug out kit, how about one for $79.88 with free shipping.
http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/TopNavCatalogSearch?Ntt=bug+out&Ntk=All&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&N=0&storeId=10151&langId=-1&catalogId=10051 (http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/TopNavCatalogSearch?Ntt=bug+out&Ntk=All&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&N=0&storeId=10151&langId=-1&catalogId=10051)
If the WalMart "Super Deal" of $69 were to return within 90 days of my "not so super deal" of $87 purchase, I would order another and return the "original" ;) purchase! The $79.88 close out at Academy is a great price but not worth my effort for $7 (IMHO). The Crosman price of $109.99 is clearly out of line. I think that Pyramid Air sells them for $99.99. I'm cool with my $87. The Academy price is excellent and interested folks should jump on it as the WalMart $69 may NEVER return. Flex
??? You know I got my 1377 from Amazon several weeks ago and have not opened it yet!! I guess I realy need it LOL ;D ;D ;D
LOL
Just got mine yesterday. Haven't opened it yet either... but I am sure I needed it ;) :D :D ???
OMG ... that's like buying a new puppy and leaving it in the box, don't you guys understand
pistols have feelings too. They need to be loved ..... :-\ :-* ;)
You're right :( :-[ :-*
What the hell am I thinking.......
Be right back.......... need to rescue a puppy..... Oops.... I mean a .......a pistol 8) :P ;D ;) :-*
Quote from: Brent on January 31, 2013, 05:09:54 AM
You're right :( :-[ :-*
What the hell am I thinking.......
Be right back.......... need to rescue a puppy..... Oops.... I mean a .......a pistol 8) :P ;D ;) :-*
Don't forget to lay newspapers on the floor in case the
puppy pistol has an accident. :P
Phone books work better than newspapers for the pistol accidents.
Quote from: Tater on January 31, 2013, 06:47:37 AM
Don't forget to lay newspapers on the floor in case the puppy pistol has an accident. :P
LMAO
OK... I hear you.....
Phone books it is... until I run out... and then on to newspapers :-*
Can't wait until this thing grows up... and it is
potty pellet trained! ???
;D ;D
QuoteCan't wait until this thing grows up... and it is potty pellet trained! ???
But the pellet training is half the fun. :)
Cheers,
LOL. Good point ;)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
They have them again, for $46.99. I'm very weak and bought one, might keep it stock.
Quote from: BerkshireHunter on March 01, 2013, 05:43:34 AM
They have them again, for $46.99. I'm very weak and bought one, might keep it stock.
When they were 39.99 I bought 2, and they are still in the packages waiting for a great build idea.
Quote from: YSYEO on March 01, 2013, 03:28:56 PM
When they were 39.99 I bought 2, and they are still in the packages waiting for a great build idea.
Thats what I am doing with the one I got , still in the package unopened!
Quote from: breakfastchef on January 11, 2013, 01:32:36 AM
Received my 1377 today. If this were my first one, I would have packed it up and sent it to Amazon for a refund. This thing is so difficult to pump and the trigger is hideous. Thankfully I had a nice pair of maple RB Grips I purchased from arkmaker earlier this year to make this thing somewhat more comfortable to use. I am now going to recommend grips as the absolute first mod anyone should make over breech and trigger work.
After a session with the chrony to establish baseline velocities, this one is shooting much harder than my refurbed PC77 I got two years ago. At 10 pumps it is pushing 7.0g pellets (RWS Hobby) @550 fps.
Huh. You and Squally had issues? Just got mine today. Looks fine externally but is extremely difficult to open and pump (headspacing valve issue?). Im going to play around with it, oil it, and see if my impression changes. Im going to compare with some of my others.
Quote from: Squallywally on January 11, 2013, 04:10:48 PM
I was thinking when I opened up my $39 amazon 1377 was that it seemed very cheap. It pumped hard, it cocked hard, and it dripped in oil. It is the first 1377 I have bought in a while. In a way I thought it was due to the fact that my other ones have been modded and have turned out to be so jewel like in quality that I was comparing apples and oranges. However...
The air tube is rough (like it wasn't "sanded" before they blued it) the barrel has three spots on it that looks like it had rusted and someone wire brushed them before bluing. After I took it outside, I then noticed the brown hue of the barrel. It is so oily that it left a stain on my bench. I think it was over oiled to deal with the rusting of the barrel. The whole barrel is dull, it looks like the old rusty barrel of my 1970s Pumpmaster 760 after I oil it.
I too would have sent this back if it were not for the price and the fact that this will not remain in stock form.
HOWEVER, that is not an excuse for them to start making them shoddy and offering them at discount prices.
I would much rather have the quality that I know and pay the regular price.
But...
I did order two at this price, the other one is for my friend. His is nice. It looks and operates like you would expect. This one became my friends because he "intends" on keeping it in stock form. We'll see how long that lasts...
Are you sure you didn't return it? I think I got your gun! :D What a P.O.S.
I never imagined a 1377 would be like those $35 beeman p17s that only last 100 shots before they break. The thing is incredibly hard to open on the first pump -with no starting pressure!! In fact, the metal rings in sharp agony when the lever finally breaks open. It is harder to cock than I remember. Also, the rear plastic sight is noticeably made from a different plastic than even my 1322 from last spring. The external bluing is rougher than the 1322, and both of those pale in comparison to the my 1377 from 2007.
The gun's action is completely unacceptable and I'm pretty upset, especially since it seems like such a large number of us got junk guns. Don't know if I should return it or get a refund, I'm afraid I'd get another China lemon. :o
This is my first bad Crosman experience, and I want to give them a chance to make it right ( or Amazon) because they do have a great reputation for service.
BUT WHAT THE HECK?! ???
(I should add Manufacture date by s/n is Dec. 2012.)
I'm sorry to read that some have had issues with their $39.99 Amazon deals. I was a bit concerned before I ordered mine a month or so back that they were all 'factory seconds" and would be sub par performers. After a few brief moments of thought, ;) I went ahead and ordered one anyway. I figured that with Amazon.com's return policy, I could always return it. It seems that I lucked out on mine since it doesn't seem to have the issues that others have been describing :). For those that haven't opened theirs yet, it might not be a bad idea to do so before the "returnability" fades away. If nothing else, even a "lemon" could serve as a "donor" of the various parts that folks are always ordering from Crosman. I suspect that if you added up all of the individual components, (I may do it just for fun) it would be more than $39.99. I'm just sayin'. Flex
Quote from: Flex on March 09, 2013, 01:49:59 AM
I'm sorry to read that some have had issues with their $39.99 Amazon deals.
Having modded several 13xx pistols, I forgot what they were like out of the package. After a few days, the whole pumping situation smoothed out, you pinch your fingers at least once, and commit to improving it. So, the pistol is definitely worth the price paid, but I could see how a completely new owner might be turned off by it.
I am pretty happy with mine. It has smoothed out a bit... after shooting it more. If they put them on sale again for $40... am going to get another for modding.
You guys got it good, I bought one at the new price of $46. I don't think they will be at $39 anymore.
Quote from: BigErn on March 09, 2013, 07:15:13 PM
You guys got it good, I bought one at the new price of $46. I don't think they will be at $39 anymore.
Or if they are, there's a 50% chance they'll be rough like the one I got. ;D
Quote from: BerkshireHunter on March 09, 2013, 07:56:29 PM
Or if they are, there's a 50% chance they'll be rough like the one I got. ;D
Are you sending it back for an exchange? If you do... can you post back and let us know how it also compares (and how it compares to your others also... that was good info).
Quote from: Brent on March 09, 2013, 08:08:27 PM
Are you sending it back for an exchange? If you do... can you post back and let us know how it also compares (and how it compares to your others also... that was good info).
Not sure, that or get a refund maybe. Don't want to give away my Gauntlet entry, but I might not need a sttock 1377 anymore. ;)