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Started by Cwlongshot, May 03, 2013, 04:05:12 AM

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Cwlongshot

Ok so tonight I decided I had time for a quickie trigger job on the new 2240...

Well one thing lead to another and I decided since I was there... I might as well install the brass safety..  NO I did not loose the ball or spring,  :P :P But not for lack of tryng!!  LOL.. it went flying twice and the spring went at least twice more... Once I convinced my self I did NOT NEED a safety...  :o :o :o

But I finally found a mall screw driver and using unknown patience... I got it!!  But it got me thinking, there muct be a better way that I do not know. So seeing that I have one more to do on the .77. ...

How did you install your brass safety pin?

CW
BENJAMIN's: 392PA '11 • Marauder .25 • MAC1 tuned Disco .22 • 397P Nickle '81

CROSMAN's:  1389 Back Packer .20 '86 • Hawthorne M140 4th variant • 357 W/8'' '90 • 760 '75 • 1377 '13 CARBINE LOTS ''O'' Mods • 2200 Magnum '81 (First Gen) • 2100 '13 • 2240 '13 

DAISY's:  25 '10 • Red Ryder • 22X • 922

DIANA's:  34 .22 '05 (RWS)

SHERIDAN's:  Blue Streak '82  Steroid • Blue Streak '65 Steroid • Blue Streak '70 • Blue Streak '72 • C9 Blue Streak

WEBLY's:  Longbow .177 • Hurricane  .177

XISICO's:  XS60c .22 PCP

rangerfredbob

The easiest way to install/remove the safety is to remove the grip frame from the main tube, then remove the side plate form the grip frame, the spring is held between the ball and the main tube in the slot, much easier to work with the tube off...
Near McMinnville, Oregon

Have me many an airgun :), count is 102 now...

Brent

#2
I so should let Jerry answer this, as he taught me ;)

The trick is to remove the trigger frame off of the tube first. When you take them apart, hold them upright vertically. Take the tube straight up and off, and the spring stays in place. Do this over a towel, so if the spring or something else comes out (it probably won't)... it can't roll away. I usually just pull the spring out at this point, and tip the frame over and let the ball roll out onto the towel.

(edit... looks like Bob was writing his out at the same time I was ;) )

JEBert

Rest of the story:
When you finish your trigger job, put the safety in place, pull the trigger to make sure the safety is in right, put the cover back on, THEN drop the ball into its groove followed by the spring and put the trigger frame back onto the air tube.  That way, there is never any tension on the safety spring while the cover is off so the ball and spring won't go anywhere.
Cheers,
Jerry
NRA Life Member
USAF Veteran 1973-1977 (43151E) Sgt (E-4)


quickster47 †

The one thing I have started doing is applying a small dab of grease to the spring and then using that grease to hold the ball in place on the spring and then also it will hold the ball and spring in the safety slot.

I got this from the Crosman 1701P trigger frames as that is they way they keep them in place.

Try it, you'll like it.   :)

Carl

I've never wanted something so useless in my life.
In Omnia Paratus
1947-05-19 - 2016-07-14 †

Fronzdan

But really....you should just go ahead and lose at least one spring and ball.  Then you can be part of the elite group of others that have done that at least once.   :-[

JEBert

QuoteBut really....you should just go ahead and lose at least one spring and ball.  Then you can be part of the elite group of others that have done that at least once.   :-[
Agreed.  Also, you need to put all of the screws, springs, and all of the small parts into an egg carton or something similar to keep them all together, and when you have them all in there, knock the whole container off of the table scattering everything in all directions.  That's when it will happen anyway.   :)
Cheers,
Jerry
NRA Life Member
USAF Veteran 1973-1977 (43151E) Sgt (E-4)


ped

Quote from: JEBert on May 03, 2013, 06:35:03 AM
Agreed.  Also, you need to put all of the screws, springs, and all of the small parts into an egg carton or something similar to keep them all together, and when you have them all in there, knock the whole container off of the table scattering everything in all directions.  That's when it will happen anyway.   :)
Cheers,
done that jerry i now use a jam jar lid with some really strong earth magnets underneath
ped
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Cwlongshot

Thanks guys!!  :-\ :-\ :-*

I KNEW you would have a better way!!

CW
BENJAMIN's: 392PA '11 • Marauder .25 • MAC1 tuned Disco .22 • 397P Nickle '81

CROSMAN's:  1389 Back Packer .20 '86 • Hawthorne M140 4th variant • 357 W/8'' '90 • 760 '75 • 1377 '13 CARBINE LOTS ''O'' Mods • 2200 Magnum '81 (First Gen) • 2100 '13 • 2240 '13 

DAISY's:  25 '10 • Red Ryder • 22X • 922

DIANA's:  34 .22 '05 (RWS)

SHERIDAN's:  Blue Streak '82  Steroid • Blue Streak '65 Steroid • Blue Streak '70 • Blue Streak '72 • C9 Blue Streak

WEBLY's:  Longbow .177 • Hurricane  .177

XISICO's:  XS60c .22 PCP

droid

Best way I found was to buy a large bag of BBs and a large bag of springs. I haven't lost a one since I did that !
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quickster47 †

Quote from: droid on May 03, 2013, 12:57:46 PM
Best way I found was to buy a large bag of BBs and a large bag of springs. I haven't lost a one since I did that !

Gary I'm with you on that one.  Bought the extras nine months ago and nary a problem since.  ???

Carl

I've never wanted something so useless in my life.
In Omnia Paratus
1947-05-19 - 2016-07-14 †

Cwlongshot

Quote from: quickster47 on May 03, 2013, 02:01:42 PM
Gary I'm with you on that one.  Bought the extras nine months ago and nary a problem since.  ???

Carl

I thought of that myself... But then said "how hard can it be"...

I was very lucky, twice the ball went flying once bouncing off me and falling back into the grip. Second time again off me then the bench back to rest on my rag I was working on. Now the spring... That sailed onto the floor twice but was seen both times and once off the back of the bench. One thing I learned long ago you cannot work if you cannot see. I have a dual halogen 300W lights over my bench as well as a lighted magnifier bolted to my one bench. ;)

When the second safety arrives, I'll be ready to put it in! 

Thanks again everyone!!

CW
BENJAMIN's: 392PA '11 • Marauder .25 • MAC1 tuned Disco .22 • 397P Nickle '81

CROSMAN's:  1389 Back Packer .20 '86 • Hawthorne M140 4th variant • 357 W/8'' '90 • 760 '75 • 1377 '13 CARBINE LOTS ''O'' Mods • 2200 Magnum '81 (First Gen) • 2100 '13 • 2240 '13 

DAISY's:  25 '10 • Red Ryder • 22X • 922

DIANA's:  34 .22 '05 (RWS)

SHERIDAN's:  Blue Streak '82  Steroid • Blue Streak '65 Steroid • Blue Streak '70 • Blue Streak '72 • C9 Blue Streak

WEBLY's:  Longbow .177 • Hurricane  .177

XISICO's:  XS60c .22 PCP

onebaddj

300 watt bulbs! Are you tanning while your working?
i wasnt born with enough middle fingers. Marolyn manson.

AS13

"The best layed plans of mice and men." You get a magnetic parts tray for your parts so you don't loose them and the cat gets on the workbench while you're off getting coffee and knocks the tray off the workbench >:(
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DaveB50

Love this thread, glad I'm not the only clutz that has parts flying while working on things.  ;D ;D ;D
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