Early model 1377 American Classic

[Flex]

While visiting with my In-Laws a couple of weeks ago, I was making the rounds thru the local junk/resale/surplus stores and saw what looked like an old Crosman 1377. It had a small curved panel covering the breech and a cocking knob at the rear of the tube. It was a little bit beat up and I wasn't too interested (at that moment in time) he said I could have it for $30 OTD. I didn't have the cash in my pocket and he didn't want an out of state check and didn't take my Discover card. Bottom line is I didn't get it. Over the next few days, I got busy with other stuff and kinda forgot about the American Classic... until I got back home. After only a few minutes of research, I figured that I might have messed up by not snagging that pistol. I dashed off an email note to my F-I-L wondering if he'd be able to go back and see if it was still available. Well, shortening an already long story, after several emails in as many days, my F-I-L tells me he snagged the gun for $30 OTD! I'm hoping that there's someone out there that thinks that I did OK. Since I had given it only a cursory exam when I first looked at it, I can't recall noting whether or not the breech was steel or plastic. I guess I'll just have to wait until I get it home to find out for sure. Until then, what's the general take on what I've acquired? Flex














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[Fronzdan]

Good deal.  It's likely a Phase II  1377.  Plastic breech, pull-cocker with a nice brass valve.  You can keep it stock, but mine never shot well because of the loose barrel in the plastic breech and barrel band which was slightly cocked to one side.  I added a steel breech and barrel band and it immediately became my best shooting 13xx.  Being a Crosmaniac i couldnt leave well enough alone and have since added longer barrel with new crown,FT piston/valve, 1701 frame and new wood.  I kept all the best components...the pull cocker and hammer, the valve and the pump arm linkage which has no wobble.  original tube too with the American Classic stamping.  Still my best and favorite 13xx.

[Cross Pistol Packer]

If it has the curved twist and lock breech cover,breech should be all metal,an early Crosman,good find.

[DaveB50]

1377 Phase l had a 1 piece wrap around grip panel, phase ll had separate grip panels, same as later models.

[onebaddj]

That's the same pistol I started my build with. A lot of fun and is like having a single action pistol. You can have it pumped and one in the chamber but not cocked. All the same aftermarket mods will work except the power adjusters and hammer strings. I like mine. For $30 not a bad deal IMO.

[Flex]

I'm somewhat embarrassed about my initial lack of interest in this Crosman but I had another focus for that shopping expedition. The details of my brief encounter are fuzzy at best. The panel covering the breech and the cocking knob are the features that stood out in my mind as being markedly different than current production models. I can't remember the grips seeming to be any different than what we see today. I too, agree that it is what I've learned to be 2nd variant/phase II American Classic. I'm hoping that the internals are in relatively good condition and that gasket/seal rejuvenation is all that's necessary. We'll see. Flex

[Cwlongshot]

I just went thru my fathers Medalist II. I was talking to him some weeks back about looking for my old Crosman 22. He has been staying at my place in upstate New York and I hopped I had left it up there. Anyhow. He pulled his out and re juvenated his interest in plinking off the porch. Ahh retarded life...

Anyhow he returned home with the gun and it who's pretty bad shape. I cleaned it up, did quick polish to improve trigger, crowned barrel and installed new O rings. It's a brand new gun!! Pop is happy look out tin cans!!

I remembered how round the trigger guard was and how the grip was same as the M150.

Is yours the one piece grip and round trigger guard?

Nice older guns, sure with I could find mine....

CW

[arkmaker †]

30 bucks sounds like a good deal to me. The great thing about these pistols is that they can almost always be fixed if anything goes wrong. Have you considered that it may be the BB version? Maybe not what you want, but I have not seen that many around.
Rich

[mudduck48]

Here is mine. It is an early Pahze II. It has the plastic breech and no roll pin on the pump arm. It also has the one piece grips. Bought it new in 1980 from monkey wards.

[quickster47 †]

Ducky that is one fine looking Crosman.  Does it still shoot reliably?

Carl

[mudduck48]

Ducky that is one fine looking Crosman.  Does it still shoot reliably?

Carl

This gun is the reason I got on the forum. I wanted to find out how to get the C clip off the pump arm pin with out scratching the tube. I took it apart compleatly and found the brass valve in it. It shoots, but I need to put a new part in the valve that the hammer hits to let the air out. And a new transfer port seal. Noah sent me a new barrel and some other parts for it, just been on other projects and have not done the tear down again yet. But, yes it does shoot. Here is the part. I put an O-ring on this after I removed the green stuff.

[Flex]

I'm not exactly sure when my F-I-L will be shipping / bringing the pistol to me. I told him that there was "no rush" but (or course) that was a lie! In the meantime, I've asked him to take a few pics and email them to me. I will be posting them once I get them. I'm guessing that it's a Phase II but hopeful that it might just an earlier model. In reading other posts RE: 1st vs 2nd variants, it seems like there might me a "gray area" for the ones built in 1981. Are there any "absolutes" that clearly differentiate a 1st variant form a 2nd variant? Were there serial #s on the Crosman air guns built in the '70s & '80s? I know that all of this really doesn't make any difference since "it is what it is" and I won't be taking it back, but sometimes a guy "just gots ta know". Flex

[mudduck48]

Yes, they have serial numbers. From what I understand is that after 1975 the first 3 numbers of the serial number is the Mfg. date;ie 176 would be Jan. 1976. The 2240 I just bought was 313, March 2013.

[quickster47 †]

He pulled his out and re juvenated his interest in plinking off the porch. Ahh retarded life...

CW

CW, I sure hope your father is not reading this forum and your posts... 

Carl

[Cwlongshot]

CW, I sure hope your father is not reading this forum and your posts... 

Carl

LOL  Actually, that what HE CALLS retirement!!!     

CW