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How is this shot string from new .22 cal 2300KT ?

Started by wahoowad, June 22, 2013, 06:56:15 PM

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wahoowad

Today I logged this shot string across my chrony. I have no idea what the fps should be or the expectations shot count per cartridge. How does this look for a stock .22 2300KT? All I've done so far is lower the trigger spring adjuster to lighten it up, polish the sear contact surfaces and mounted a 6.5 TKO LDC (which is amazing!)

I didn't think to chrony it until after the first few shots of a new cartridge. Temp was about 80 degrees. Cheap Crosman domes. Two things stand out to me and am looking to see if this normal (a) no stable velocity, pretty much a steady trend of decreasing fps, except for (b) several drops of 25 to 30 fps occurring randomly. I know it is not regulated but was expecting more stable shot string.




   1      (did not shoot over chrony)   
   2      (did not shoot over chrony)   
   3      (did not shoot over chrony)   
   4      (did not shoot over chrony)   
   5      (did not shoot over chrony)   
   6      493   
   7      489   
   8      467   
   9      475   
   10      480   
   11      456   
   12      477   
   13      449   
   14      476   
   15      442   
   16      471   
   17      470   
   18      468   
   19      433   
   20      464   
   21      461   
   22      449   
   23      464   
   24      422   
   25      468   
   26      469   
   27      454   
   28      439   
   29      413   
   30      461   
   31      445   
   32      435   
   33      423   
   34      411   
   35      400   
   36      387   
   37      370   
   38      353   
   39      340   
   40      324   
   41      306   
   42      286   

I released the cartridge and only heard a short pfft.

breakfastchef

I had a stock 2240 that shot 430-450 fps on average. Your string looks pretty normal. @30 decent shots per cartridge has been my experience.

If you want to feel better about the graph, change the low end of the Y axis to 100 fps. That will take out some of the peaks and valleys and produce a smoother looking line.
Larry

1377x

how long is your barrel and how long did you wait between shots
that shots are sporadic do you have a power adjuster on it
the fps looks about right
closed mouths dont get fed

wahoowad

Quote from: 1377x on June 22, 2013, 07:11:45 PM
how long is your barrel and how long did you wait between shots
that shots are sporadic do you have a power adjuster on it
the fps looks about right

10" barrel, no power adjuster.

Some shots had more time between them than others, for awhile I was walking over to a bench to write and grab a pellet. After awhile I moved the notepad and pellet tin next to me.  At the quickest times I shot, recorded reading onto paper, loaded a pellet and shot again....so 15 seconds between shots sometimes, sometimes more.

Is 15 seconds too quick?

1377x

it is said you wait between shot letting the gas warm a little every time you shoot it gets cooler and I think it gives time to fill the valve back up
take about 30 seconds - a minute between shots see it it gets more consistent
closed mouths dont get fed

wahoowad

Quote from: 1377x on June 22, 2013, 07:35:07 PM
it gives time to fill the valve back up

Hmmmm, my limited (probably incorrect) understanding is that the CO2 stays in the cartridge until the hammer hits the valve to momentarily allow some gas to escape the cartridge. If so...the valve isn't a reservoir per se, just a metering device...am I wrong here? Perhaps there is some valve lock or valve freezing going on if quick succession shots allow cold CO2 to be released and impact the valve?

brz-ryder †

The valve is both a reservoir and a metering device when you first shoot the gun after putting in a new carg you should hear the co2 going into the valve. thats why some valve are bored out bigger to let it hold more co2 to up your fps more gas the fps goes up

Jim
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AaronMB

If it's nice and warm and your cartridges are at outside ambient temperature, you should be able to get away with waiting less-time between shots (experiment). The faster you shoot though, the more cool-down you'll have on your cartridge temperature (lower efficiency/velocity, theoretically). 30 seconds to a minute, as suggested above is a good time, assuming you're not in cool temps.
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breakfastchef

Waiting for a minute between shots is fine just to show yourself how (in)consistent your gun is shooting, or for testing the effectiveness of mods and changes to settings. But, it is no fun.

I normally do not shoot that way when having fun and plinking. I just shoot until POI falls off, degas the cart, and load the next one.
Larry