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Crosman 1322 / 1377 / 2240 - newest arrivals initial shooting

Started by T191032, August 06, 2013, 02:59:32 AM

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T191032

Ok, so everything seems to be coming on like a tidal wave  :( but I was able to get them on to the "makeshift" bench - TV stand in the living room and fire them for effect aka site in purposes.


Crosman 1322 Initial Thoughts -

* .22 caliber pellets a little easier to grasp.
* Accurate @ 5 meters off the light bench rest I set up with a TV stand & MTM pistol rest.
* Almost all of the wadcutter pellets, except for the Webley Vermin Pell seems to "catch" when inserting into the barrel with the bolt probe.  A little less minor with the RWS Meisterkuglen and H & N Sport wadcutters.
* Hard to pump.
* New black trigger feels different than those with the trigger shoes I own.
* Sight adjustment was slight.
* Some shots sounded like they hit with more authority than others.
* Stiff cocking
* Trigger pull is firm.


Crosman 1377 American Classic Initial Thoughts -

* Felt a little easier to pump than 1322.
* New black trigger feels different than those with the trigger shoes I own.
* Sight adjustment was . . . surprising.  Lateral adjustment frustrating, POI for vertical already set at most down part out of the package.
* Will need to shoot it some more to better determine accuracy potential (on a more rested day)


Crosman 2240 Inital Thoughts -

* .22 caliber pellets a little easier to grasp.
* Accurate @ 5 meters off the light bench rest I set up with a TV stand & MTM pistol rest.
* Light, handy size
* Loud.
* No pumping.
* Surprised to get 50 shots from the Powerlet, though I will have to stick to 40 for best of luck shooting.




After I finished up sighting in the Crosman 2240, I got to wondering a little and decided to take a little survey.  Out came a few air pistols and rifles to measure.

Crosman 2300KT 14.6" barrel, .22 - 20" (Mr. Silver)
Crosman 2300KT 10.1" barrel, .177 - 15.75" (1740 Target)
Crosman 2240 7.5" barrel, .22 - 11.25"
Crosman 1377 10" barrel, .177 - 13.88 (Mr. Black)
Crosman 1377 12" barrel, .177 - 18.1" (Mr. Purple)
Crosman 357W .177 - 11.375"


Crosman 2400KT 18" barrel, .177 - 34.75"
Crosman 1377 16" barrel, .177 - 33.00" (Mr. Green, carbine format)
Crosman 760 Power Master, .177 - 35.50" (My first Crosman, circa 1980s, used then)
Crosman 760P Pumpmaster, .177 - 33.75" (The plastic body one)


Daisy 953 TargetPro, .177 - 38.00"

CZ 631 Slavia, .177 - 45.50"
CZ 622 Slavia, .22 - 35.50


From that little survey, I see the handguns are a pretty mixed bunch, of course the grips of the 13xx/22xx feel better than the 357W to me.  In the long-gun category, they are much handier in that 30-36" lengths than the long, clumbersome, but OHHHHHHHHHHHHH so accurate CZ631.
It ain't like it used to be but, eh, it's do.

breakfastchef

Good description of the stock pistols. It is amazing how unrefined a new pistol feels after you have modded a few. The 13xx pistols are very hard to pump out of the package, and the 2240 does have a bark.
Larry

quickster47 †

Good information on your new guns and three of Crosman's entry level and long time user's favorites.

It is also evident from your arsenal that you are hooked and have been hooked for some time.  :D  But we already knew that.

Carl

I've never wanted something so useless in my life.
In Omnia Paratus
1947-05-19 - 2016-07-14 †

crossliner

Quote from: T191032 on August 06, 2013, 02:59:32 AM
Ok, so everything seems to be coming on like a tidal wave  :( but I was able to get them on to the "makeshift" bench - TV stand in the living room and fire them for effect aka site in purposes.


Crosman 1322 Initial Thoughts -

* .22 caliber pellets a little easier to grasp.
* Accurate @ 5 meters off the light bench rest I set up with a TV stand & MTM pistol rest.
* Almost all of the wadcutter pellets, except for the Webley Vermin Pell seems to "catch" when inserting into the barrel with the bolt probe.  A little less minor with the RWS Meisterkuglen and H & N Sport wadcutters.
* Hard to pump.
* New black trigger feels different than those with the trigger shoes I own.
* Sight adjustment was slight.
* Some shots sounded like they hit with more authority than others.
* Stiff cocking
* Trigger pull is firm.


Crosman 1377 American Classic Initial Thoughts -

* Felt a little easier to pump than 1322.
* New black trigger feels different than those with the trigger shoes I own.
* Sight adjustment was . . . surprising.  Lateral adjustment frustrating, POI for vertical already set at most down part out of the package.
* Will need to shoot it some more to better determine accuracy potential (on a more rested day)


Crosman 2240 Inital Thoughts -

* .22 caliber pellets a little easier to grasp.
* Accurate @ 5 meters off the light bench rest I set up with a TV stand & MTM pistol rest.
* Light, handy size
* Loud.
* No pumping.
* Surprised to get 50 shots from the Powerlet, though I will have to stick to 40 for best of luck shooting.




After I finished up sighting in the Crosman 2240, I got to wondering a little and decided to take a little survey.  Out came a few air pistols and rifles to measure.

Crosman 2300KT 14.6" barrel, .22 - 20" (Mr. Silver)
Crosman 2300KT 10.1" barrel, .177 - 15.75" (1740 Target)
Crosman 2240 7.5" barrel, .22 - 11.25"
Crosman 1377 10" barrel, .177 - 13.88 (Mr. Black)
Crosman 1377 12" barrel, .177 - 18.1" (Mr. Purple)
Crosman 357W .177 - 11.375"


Crosman 2400KT 18" barrel, .177 - 34.75"
Crosman 1377 16" barrel, .177 - 33.00" (Mr. Green, carbine format)
Crosman 760 Power Master, .177 - 35.50" (My first Crosman, circa 1980s, used then)
Crosman 760P Pumpmaster, .177 - 33.75" (The plastic body one)


Daisy 953 TargetPro, .177 - 38.00"

CZ 631 Slavia, .177 - 45.50"
CZ 622 Slavia, .22 - 35.50


From that little survey, I see the handguns are a pretty mixed bunch, of course the grips of the 13xx/22xx feel better than the 357W to me.  In the long-gun category, they are much handier in that 30-36" lengths than the long, clumbersome, but OHHHHHHHHHHHHH so accurate CZ631.

No doubt about them CZ barrels sir..My CZ S200 in .177 does 1 hole literally out to 35 meters ( my shooting range is limited ) w/ no wind using sorted JSB 8 grainers..I have yet to try it to 50 meters..When I tested its accuracy I just put it on the shooting table and semi clamped it w/ some sandbags..Peered thru the scope, my right fingers almost not holding the grip, and pulled the trigger so there was almost no human factor..It made me shake my head in disbelief..

Nice Crosman collection  :-*

1377x

nice report!
when you have a chance can you post some pics of the vermin pell?
closed mouths dont get fed

T191032

The first 50 shots from the Crosman 2240 -

First 10 were RWS Meisterkuglen Wadcutters, then I switched over to Gamo Match.









It ain't like it used to be but, eh, it's do.

1377x

closed mouths dont get fed

Tater

Quote from: 1377x on August 07, 2013, 05:15:22 AM
keepem' coming!
dang flyers

Flyer?!?!?  ;D

It was his 50th shot and low CO2........  I think. ???
Jerry

NW Chicago suburbs

KevinP

Kevin
Albany, New York

karatekid1975

#9
The only problems I had with the 2240 is it was difficult to sight in (stock sights), and the trigger is a little "heavy." When I shoot it, I jurk the gun trying to pull the trigger. My Quest is so much lighter, trigger-wise. And I don't like pumpers, except my 760. And the 2440 stock is a little loud. These things will change after the stock 2240 shootout.
Laurie

Crosman 2240 pistol
Crosman Quest 1000x rifle
Crosman stock 760 (1972) pump master
RWS 34 Diana rifle
Former Crosman employee ;)

BDS

PPQ you can ask Rich (Arkmaker) but, I think trigger work is ok for the "stock" gun shootouts?


Brian

twigboy

Quote from: BDS on August 07, 2013, 08:33:10 PM
PPQ you can ask Rich (Arkmaker) but, I think trigger work is ok for the "stock" gun shootouts?

From the General Competition Rules (http://www.crosman-air-pistol-owners-forum.com/board/index.php/topic,10076.0.html)


           7a) The Definition of "Stock" (in reference to the CAPOF "Stock Only" competitions)
                1)  Stock which is interpreted as take it out of the package, clean/lube shoot.
                2)  No material may be added nor removed from any internal or external surface of the gun (and it's components).
                3)  If it's not a Crosman part that came with the gun or a direct factory OEM replacement part, it is not allowed.
                     Yes, this means you can change a seal, stem or replace a broken part due to wear or droppage.
                4)  The total dis-assembly, re-assembly, lube and alignment of components is allowed, provided #1, #2 & #3 are adhered to.

BDS

Brian

twigboy

Quote from: BDS on August 07, 2013, 11:22:23 PM
man... talk about layin in the weeds.. post # 43? :D

Ha!  Me?  Just helping.  I bought a reman'd 1377/pc77 to keep stock for the comp, keeping the rule in mind.  Then compared the other members performance to mine and decided to lay low until I've had a chance to work with this thing.  Heck, I'm laying low from the modified 1377 too (my other)!

T191032

Quote from: BDS on August 07, 2013, 08:33:10 PM
PPQ you can ask Rich (Arkmaker) but, I think trigger work is ok for the "stock" gun shootouts?

"Stock" should be "stock" as per the original Stock class Air Pistol.  The original idea was no mods, just right out of the package kinda shooting (I kinda remember because I wrote them up after the Stock class idea was presented.  Rich just makes it look better & more formal.  :))


"It was his 50th shot and low CO2........  I think."

Correct, was pushing the envelope.  Will stick with a 40-shot count from now on.


"When I shoot it, I jurk the gun trying to pull the trigger."

have you tried some Dryfire practice, punchpressqueen75?
It ain't like it used to be but, eh, it's do.