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As good as can get stock peeps 1377?

Started by K.O., October 17, 2013, 02:30:24 AM

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K.O.

First oops the destroyer ex are 7.4g I think.

well anyways finally got a few shots off with no wind with my PC77

and yep it is not a scatter gun any more...

So my question is do any PC 77 owners here expect better with stock sights?

The destroyer flier was not my fault this time.  (unless I clipped it loading).

Used a slightly high sight pic for the destroyers because  I noticed they seemed to shoot just a touch low...

used same sight pic for comparisons purposes with the pointed.

I tend to think this is the best I can expect from my stock pistol but,

I am pretty sure I am not as familiar with them as many here...

what say you folks?

1322XLT(2100/13XX hybyid)750 fps @ 16 pumps w/CPHP 14.3g

MK1322(2240/13XX/MK177 hybrid) 805 fps at @ 22 pumps w/14.3g CPHP

about 5 more 13xxs
Two Daisy 953(# 31x Jan. 1985) & (Sept 2004)
2100b (with old style piston)
.25 Mrod (50fpe tune)
.177 BSA Buccaneer (on the way)

K.O.

Both 5 shot groups (2 in 1 in bull ,pointed group)
1322XLT(2100/13XX hybyid)750 fps @ 16 pumps w/CPHP 14.3g

MK1322(2240/13XX/MK177 hybrid) 805 fps at @ 22 pumps w/14.3g CPHP

about 5 more 13xxs
Two Daisy 953(# 31x Jan. 1985) & (Sept 2004)
2100b (with old style piston)
.25 Mrod (50fpe tune)
.177 BSA Buccaneer (on the way)

bgmcgee

"I've lost what's left of my right mind"

K.O.

Quote from: bgmcgee on October 17, 2013, 03:27:51 AM
That ain't bad at 20 yards.  :-*

Thanks  I am  very happy with the groupings  and hope the get just a bit better once I pick up some domes.

as big as the groups my 2100 and  PC77 started with I was worried  about getting them under control...


I have some 10.5 ultra mags but I feel it is struggling to shoot them. Once I get the longer barrel and stuff the piston/shim the cup then they just might do well...

I just was wondering if it is comparable to the  accuracy others got stock?

I got my fancy lever pin in today, looks good and fits just tight enough to make me happy...

It will probably be Jan before he gets a steel breech and the Daisy 853's  5899  rear peep and  drilled out font barrel weight/sight  with a circular insert.  ( I have always done best with that type of sight.)  (for open sights I prefer post and bead)

Honestly my goal is to hit a Quarter size target  9 time out of ten @ 20-25-30 yards

I do not know if it is doable without a choked or Walther barrel... I think @ 20-25 yards it is with the better peep or an inexpensive scope.

Trigger pull is a bit heavy on all three but also so predictable  that I can take up the slack and sit there like a two stage.  I know exactly when the round is going to go downrange.

I would love a 2200 to round out my set.  I wonder if Crosman still has parts so I could convert an 2100 or Am77?

Well my next update will probably be when the 1322 gets its steel breech and 14.5 barrel.

I will probably ask a few mod question before then...
1322XLT(2100/13XX hybyid)750 fps @ 16 pumps w/CPHP 14.3g

MK1322(2240/13XX/MK177 hybrid) 805 fps at @ 22 pumps w/14.3g CPHP

about 5 more 13xxs
Two Daisy 953(# 31x Jan. 1985) & (Sept 2004)
2100b (with old style piston)
.25 Mrod (50fpe tune)
.177 BSA Buccaneer (on the way)

jSan22

that's good for 20 yards. stock sights are sort of good for shooting. I used to dot them with nail polish, because I had trouble figuring out where the center was at with a high and thick front sight.  also did quite a bit of hunting with it. squirrel, starling, and HOSPS at  10-15 yards.

K.O.

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Quote from: jSan22 on October 17, 2013, 01:16:24 PM
I used to dot them with nail polish, because I had trouble figuring out where the center was at with a high and thick front sight.

also did quite a bit of hunting with it. squirrel, starling, and HOSPS at  10-15 yards.

I will try that because that is exactly part of my problem the rest is that the front post covers to much  of the target...

I like seeing as much as possible.

Hard to believe but the last air rifle (slightly tuned Benjis and Crosmans) game getting I did was 30-40 years ago, quail and rabbit in  Nevada and dove in Texas...

Could hit or come very near a quarter at 30 yards back then  ( home made peep sight)

But my only pump pistol shooting was someone elses in the mid 80s and just a few times for fun not really worrying about how accurate.

Hunting NOW, well  NO,  but  I do want to make my Carbines and Rifles capable of it, and do know the distance I can reliably hit a quarter is my range...

Here is the reason for no air rifle hunting for me (found pretty much the same) Wa state...

http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/thread/1161049542/Shocked+or+Stupid+in+Washington+State
1322XLT(2100/13XX hybyid)750 fps @ 16 pumps w/CPHP 14.3g

MK1322(2240/13XX/MK177 hybrid) 805 fps at @ 22 pumps w/14.3g CPHP

about 5 more 13xxs
Two Daisy 953(# 31x Jan. 1985) & (Sept 2004)
2100b (with old style piston)
.25 Mrod (50fpe tune)
.177 BSA Buccaneer (on the way)