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breech bolts

Started by CHRIS K, May 08, 2012, 05:47:00 PM

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CHRIS K

newbie here again. why am i seeing "extended bolts" or "hollow bolts. whats the purpose?
should i get one too?

Xgecko

the hollow bolt allows for a different some would say better depending on the pellet  airflow, the extended bolt seats the pellet deeper in tha barrel allow cleaner push....Need is an interesting would though in most cases it should be replaced with WANT or even lusting after
The earth without ART is just "eh"

breakfastchef

Extended and hollow bolts push pellets consistantly forward of the exhaust port in the barrel and consistantly set the pellet in the same postion each time. Each bolt works well and can provide minimal fps gains. I use both types and do not have a preference.
Larry

KevinP

Quote from: Xgecko on May 08, 2012, 06:00:32 PM
the hollow bolt allows for a different some would say better depending on the pellet  airflow, the extended bolt seats the pellet deeper in tha barrel allow cleaner push....Need is an interesting would though in most cases it should be replaced with WANT or even lusting after

;D ;D  Lusting is always more gooder .... :-*
Kevin
Albany, New York

Xgecko

#4
In the motorcycle world upgrades of minimal function are referred to as Farkle, on bicycles its often called bling, on DH skateboard we refer to is as pimping regardless of the term it is usually considered when one doesn't like the "look" of something rather than trying to improve how something works and lust is always involved
The earth without ART is just "eh"

BDS

Yup, you need one, extended bolt is fine, they both do the same thing :-*
Brian

millipede

i cant remember who said it but i guess the long probes work better for HPA than hollow probe. a hollow probe will seat all different kinds of pellets in the exact same position in the barrel while a long probe pushes the pellet from inside the skirt, and depending on the depth of the pellet skirt, will position differently in the barrel

1377x

with high powered guns the hollow probe limits output
the extended probe doesnt
if looking for better accuracy and a little more power,its worth the investment
if its for a .177 go with the extended probe
closed mouths dont get fed

Noah

Quote from: Xgecko on May 08, 2012, 06:00:32 PM
the hollow bolt allows for a different some would say better depending on the pellet  airflow, the extended bolt seats the pellet deeper in tha barrel allow cleaner push....Need is an interesting would though in most cases it should be replaced with WANT or even lusting after

Mmmmmmkay. Why not make a bolt that is both hollow AND extended?  ??? :o
"Money is like fertilizer: When it's hoarded, it stinks. When spread around, cool stuff grows." John Densmore, drummer of The Doors

Crosman 1377, 1322, 1325, 1750, 2250 and 2540, Benjamin Steroid 392, IB QB78D, Avanti/Daisy 853, Slavia 634.

1377x

Quote from: Noah on May 09, 2012, 07:42:13 AM
Mmmmmmkay. Why not make a bolt that is both hollow AND extended?  ??? :o
hollowprobe bolts are extended
closed mouths dont get fed

Noah

"Money is like fertilizer: When it's hoarded, it stinks. When spread around, cool stuff grows." John Densmore, drummer of The Doors

Crosman 1377, 1322, 1325, 1750, 2250 and 2540, Benjamin Steroid 392, IB QB78D, Avanti/Daisy 853, Slavia 634.

HappyHunter

Quote from: millipede on May 09, 2012, 05:13:42 AM
i cant remember who said it but i guess the long probes work better for HPA than hollow probe. a hollow probe will seat all different kinds of pellets in the exact same position in the barrel while a long probe pushes the pellet from inside the skirt, and depending on the depth of the pellet skirt, will position differently in the barrel

I posted this link a while back for another member on this topic. Interesting results (9 posts down):
http://www.airgunforum.ca/forums/topic43657.html?sid=66a565665e657a5c817263ba1238f8ab

I used to use flow through bolts in most of my guns (still have it in one), but since first reading that post, and having this (pic below) happen to me, I've switched to extended probes.


Todd
Todd


Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things!

1377x

what happened there???
closed mouths dont get fed

BDS

Quote from: 1377x on May 09, 2012, 03:46:58 PM
what happened there???

Looks like the small dia that was turned down for the o-ring gave out while slamming a pellet home to the breech? ???
Brian

HappyHunter

Quote from: BDS on May 09, 2012, 04:20:37 PM
Looks like the small dia that was turned down for the o-ring gave out while slamming a pellet home to the breech? ???
Close....turns out the probe diameter was .217", whereas the theoretical bore size should be .216 - .2168" (would explain why it was "snug" when I locked the bolt into place...), and the "hollow" part of probe was bored too deep - only about 1/32" left between probe base and o-ring shaft...

Between the two minor discrepencies, the bolt finally failed after about 250 - 300 shots.

Todd
Todd


Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things!