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Yet another attempt to improve a trigger

Started by jdub, August 13, 2012, 06:31:17 AM

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chongman

Quote from: cmj21973 on August 21, 2012, 01:12:59 AM
Might have to order a 1322 and 1701P trigger group. :-*
I can't remeber how bad the stock trigger was, except for the stiff sear spring, since I've modded my triggers!



Yes, Crosmanitis is back.
How bad? I've bidded on parts, inquired about a vintage gun for sale, and I'm make a list for Crosman (parts and a 1322)! :o :( ;D

yeaaa, I'm eat up with Crosmanitis real bad here today!

I've got the grip frame project going that need lots of parts that I don't have funds for this month, waiting on a DC Machine order and a 2400KT from the CCS.... yep, life is good :)
Long days and pleasant nights to you...

1377x

Quote from: Davio on August 21, 2012, 12:42:28 AM
What are they running these days?  :-X
a round figure $40 tyd from crosman
up to $70 though other sources.if i didnt have a confidentiality clause ;) i would say some un heard of prices
closed mouths dont get fed

Davio

Quote from: 1377x on August 21, 2012, 02:35:21 AM
a round figure $40 tyd from crosman
up to $70 though other sources.if i didnt have a confidentiality clause ;) i would say some un heard of prices
On this same hijacking subject... I saw the older price list on a sticky for some Crosman parts.  Is it not a good idea to quote the prices we have just paid for something from them?

Reason I'm saying this: Other than the two CCS guns I bought, today was my first order for parts.  I had my little list (8 parts) and called them out and she gave me the price.  We continued down the list, she added the $4 and told me I'd get my stuff in 1-2 weeks.  IOW, I had no idea what the parts would cost ahead of time.  Not a big deal, but just different experience not having published prices (and I don't know why).  Maybe they don't want to take the time to maintain that database?  ???

I do know that there are no 2260 tubes to be had today.  ;)
Silence is golden. Duct Tape is silver. Gravy is brown.

2400KT bulk fed repeater .22
2260 .22 w/ steel breech
2250XE .22
Benjamin Discovery .22
Benjamin Marauder .25
Crosman 1077 WOOD .177
Crosman 1077 BLACK .177
Benjamin NP Trail .177
Crosman 2240 Camo .22
Crosman 2240 polished .22
Crosman 2300KT .22
Dan Wesson 8" .177
Crosman Vigilante .177
Hatsan A44PA .25
Hatsan A44W .25
Sheridan 2260
Benjamin Trail NP XL .25
Benjamin Titan NP .22
Benjamin Marauder Pistol .22
Benjamin 392 .22
Sheridan C9 PB 50th Anniversary .20
Crosman 1701-P .177

jdub

Quote from: arkmaker on August 21, 2012, 12:22:44 AM
Can't say enough about the 1701P trigger. Just so darn sweet compared to a 2240 or 1377. Put your order in today. It is worth the wait and the extra work as Carl outlined in his posts.

Rich
I'll probably end up with a 1701P trigger group for my 2300S *but* if I can mess with it a little more and get it as good as my 2240 I'll pass on it and just be happy with what I have.   

This 2240 feels great the way it's tweaked right now.  I have a Rekord trigger on my Weihrauch and a pretty darn nice trigger on my Izzy 46M so I know what a difference a good trigger makes.  I can shoot this 2240 without thinking about the trigger at all, which is what I look for.  Despite setting up the 2300S almost exactly the same way there's still a hint of creep.

There's also the fact that at some point I'll get bored with having two almost identical pistols and sell one--the 2240--so I'll probably quit dumping money into it.  I'm hoping to pick up another nice airgun soon and need to save my pennies. :)

chongman

At the "quoted price" of 40-70 bucks I'd just as soon buy another 2240 and have fun tweeking till I get a trigger that works for me.

If I want something more I'll spend my money on a Izzy 46M. To me that's the ultimate pistol  8)

Besides, it's a lot of fun trying to come up with tweeks that are new and only cost a couple of bucks ... and lots of time.
Long days and pleasant nights to you...

Davio

Quote from: chongman on August 21, 2012, 04:48:42 AM
At the "quoted price" of 40-70 bucks I'd just as soon buy another 2240 and have fun tweeking till I get a trigger that works for me.

If I want something more I'll spend my money on a Izzy 46M. To me that's the ultimate pistol  8)

Besides, it's a lot of fun trying to come up with tweeks that are new and only cost a couple of bucks ... and lots of time.
I'm thinking that way, too.  But I do admit to liking the spring spacer and nut well enough on the 2300 and 2400 that I ordered those parts for the next "bits and pieces" gun (probably a stubby).  Came to $13.63  ;)
Silence is golden. Duct Tape is silver. Gravy is brown.

2400KT bulk fed repeater .22
2260 .22 w/ steel breech
2250XE .22
Benjamin Discovery .22
Benjamin Marauder .25
Crosman 1077 WOOD .177
Crosman 1077 BLACK .177
Benjamin NP Trail .177
Crosman 2240 Camo .22
Crosman 2240 polished .22
Crosman 2300KT .22
Dan Wesson 8" .177
Crosman Vigilante .177
Hatsan A44PA .25
Hatsan A44W .25
Sheridan 2260
Benjamin Trail NP XL .25
Benjamin Titan NP .22
Benjamin Marauder Pistol .22
Benjamin 392 .22
Sheridan C9 PB 50th Anniversary .20
Crosman 1701-P .177

jdub

Quote from: chongman on August 21, 2012, 04:48:42 AM
If I want something more I'll spend my money on a Izzy 46M. To me that's the ultimate pistol  8)
It may not be the ultimate but I'm pretty sure it's the nicest I'll ever own.  I had to sell a few firearms to get mine. 

I agree that if I can get there on the 2300S trigger by tweaking then that's the way to go.  It's being a lot more stubborn than the 2240.  Maybe I'll just swap grip frames. :)


jdub

Quote from: Davio on August 21, 2012, 05:03:52 AM
I'm thinking that way, too.  But I do admit to liking the spring spacer and nut well enough on the 2300 and 2400 that I ordered those parts for the next "bits and pieces" gun (probably a stubby).  Came to $13.63  ;)
That's funny.  I just pulled the spring adjuster off my 2300S and sold a couple extras in the classifieds.  I was finding that I could get a smoother pull without it.  The adjusters are cool but I couldn't find a lighter spring that would fit over them.  The springs I'm using are smaller in diameter.

Fun trying though!

Davio

Quote from: jdub on August 21, 2012, 05:10:46 AM
That's funny.  I just pulled the spring adjuster off my 2300S and sold a couple extras in the classifieds.  I was finding that I could get a smoother pull without it.  The adjusters are cool but I couldn't find a lighter spring that would fit over them.  The springs I'm using are smaller in diameter.

Fun trying though!

Maybe it is better that I don't know the difference!  Ignorance is bliss?  ;)
Silence is golden. Duct Tape is silver. Gravy is brown.

2400KT bulk fed repeater .22
2260 .22 w/ steel breech
2250XE .22
Benjamin Discovery .22
Benjamin Marauder .25
Crosman 1077 WOOD .177
Crosman 1077 BLACK .177
Benjamin NP Trail .177
Crosman 2240 Camo .22
Crosman 2240 polished .22
Crosman 2300KT .22
Dan Wesson 8" .177
Crosman Vigilante .177
Hatsan A44PA .25
Hatsan A44W .25
Sheridan 2260
Benjamin Trail NP XL .25
Benjamin Titan NP .22
Benjamin Marauder Pistol .22
Benjamin 392 .22
Sheridan C9 PB 50th Anniversary .20
Crosman 1701-P .177

jdub

Quote from: Davio on August 21, 2012, 05:34:41 AM
Maybe it is better that I don't know the difference!  Ignorance is bliss?  ;)
Nah, you just keep messing with it until you find something that works well for you.  :-*

1377x

Quote from: Davio on August 21, 2012, 05:34:41 AM
Maybe it is better that I don't know the difference!  Ignorance is bliss?  ;)
i was thinking the same thing when i got my 2240 and hated the trigeer luckily i stumbled upon a p-rod grip frame
once you try it you will not want any other trigger for your xman pistols
you can spend 40+shipping on a cothran trigger or less for the p-rod trigger tyd do the math.i bet even with the cothran trigger its still mushy
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